Mythology

durinsbane2244 · 09-09-2006, 09:28 PM

A thread to discuss mythology of all forms! Greek, Roman, Norse, Celtic, Egyptian, the occult, folklore, legends, fairy tales, old wives' tales, superstitions, and anything else I've forgotten!

I shall begin with what I'm currently reading: The Aeneid! Has anyone else read it? I find it wonderful...good ol' Virgil, eh?

jammi567 · 09-10-2006, 03:07 AM

Never heard of it. What mthology is it part of?

Lief Erikson · 09-10-2006, 03:20 AM

The history of Rome. According to the Aeneid, the original Romans were survivors from Troy. They went through Carthage on their way to the site where they would build Rome.

jammi567 · 09-10-2006, 03:34 AM

Ok. Sounds intersting.

durinsbane2244 · 09-10-2006, 10:20 AM

indeed, it is a lovely read, and a brilliant piece of poetry from Publius! (Publius Virgelius Maro [Virgil])

Spock · 09-10-2006, 11:45 AM

1. every culture has it's own myths; thus mythology encompasses all cultures.

2. today we have 'urban legends' which are myths in the making.

3. durinsbane2244 is a myth

***Earniel*** · 09-10-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durinsbane2244

I shall begin with what I'm currently reading: The Aeneid! Has anyone else read it? I find it wonderful...good ol' Virgil, eh?

I've read it, but didn't think it was so great. I prefer the Illiad much more. But at least the Aeneid partly solved my problem of finding out what the blazes happened to Troy after they pulled in the big horse. The Illiad was less than forthcoming on that aspect.

Has anyone else ever delved into South or Middle-american mythology? Inca? Aztec? or others?

Lief Erikson · 09-10-2006, 01:09 PM

Aztec, yes. I've read a fair bit about the Aztecs and their mythology. I've found reading about the Aztecs absolutely fascinating.

***Earniel*** · 09-10-2006, 01:31 PM

They're fascinating all right, even if some of the names are particularly tongue-breaking.

But I like the way how every name has a translation, much like Tolkien's Elvish.

jammi567 · 09-10-2006, 02:25 PM

I love greek te best. So many stories.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-10-2006, 06:25 PM

I read the Aeneid recently. I liked it very much. Even more in the discussions on it. I'm sorry, Earni, but I liked it much more than the Iliad. At least, when read. Book II of the Aeneid was so powerful; Priam's death scene was heart-henching. Book IV was so dramatic, too!

An actor, name o' Eldon Quick, just last Friday gave a live one-man performance of Book II of the Iliad. Great stuff! Can't wait till he comes back.

Acalewia · 09-10-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eärniel

I've read it, but didn't think it was so great. I prefer the Illiad much more. But at least the Aeneid partly solved my problem of finding out what the blazes happened to Troy after they pulled in the big horse. The Illiad was less than forthcoming on that aspect.

Has anyone else ever delved into South or Middle-american mythology? Inca? Aztec? or others?

I haven't read the Aeneid, but I have read the Illiad. Great stuff.

Theres a book called Native American Legends by George Lankford that is full of Native American Myths. Kinda cool to see how the same story differed from tribe to tribe.

durinsbane2244 · 09-10-2006, 08:56 PM

yes, i must say, i definately like the STORY of the Iliad better, but reading, i gotta go with the Aeneid...Virgil, what can i say?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spock

3. durinsbane2244 is a myth

now just one darn- ok, yeah, fair enough....

***Earniel*** · 09-11-2006, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

I'm sorry, Earni, but I liked it much more than the Iliad. At least, when read.

Traitor!

*cough*

No worries. Can't argue with personal taste, eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acalewia

Theres a book called Native American Legends by George Lankford that is full of Native American Myths. Kinda cool to see how the same story differed from tribe to tribe.

I've got a book or two on Native American myths, they're very interesting too. I just have difficulty remembering from which tribe they come.

durinsbane2244 · 09-11-2006, 06:51 AM

i always liked the one about Quetzelcoatl...especially the part when Cortez posed as him and enslaved a nation...yeah...that was greeeeaaat...

The Gaffer · 09-11-2006, 07:31 AM

If you like the Celtic stuff, look for a book called Faeries by Brian Froud and Alan Lee.

Some great stories in there, which they lifted from various places, but the best things are the illustrations. Two other reasons to get a hold of it: the Tuatha de Danaan (Irish fairies) sound suspiciously similar to Tolkien's elves; and it's the same Alan Lee that designed the LOTR film sets.

In my RPG days we used to plunder all sorts of mythoses (what IS the plural of mythos?) for inspiration.

Spock · 09-11-2006, 07:35 AM

Ahh, an excellent book and made into a movie also.

The Gaffer · 09-11-2006, 09:42 AM

Really? Which film? Did Froud or Lee have anything to do with it?

Spock · 09-11-2006, 10:07 AM

Photographing Fairies (1998)

Starring: Toby Stephens, Emily Woof Director: Nick Willing Rating

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-11-2006, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Traitor!

*cough*

No worries. Can't argue with personal taste, eh?

De gustibus non disputandum est? I must say, I disagree...

But I will agree with DB, and say that the Iliad probably has the better story, but I like the writing of Aeneid more.

Also, if you ever get an opportunity to see a book of the Iliad performed (not too likely, but ya never know...). Do. Not. Hesitate.

09-09-2006, 09:28 PM	#1
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	Mythology A thread to discuss mythology of all forms! Greek, Roman, Norse, Celtic, Egyptian, the occult, folklore, legends, fairy tales, old wives' tales, superstitions, and anything else I've forgotten! I shall begin with what I'm currently reading: The Aeneid! Has anyone else read it? I find it wonderful...good ol' Virgil, eh? __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

09-10-2006, 03:07 AM	#2
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	Never heard of it. What mthology is it part of? __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

09-10-2006, 03:20 AM	#3
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	The history of Rome. According to the Aeneid, the original Romans were survivors from Troy. They went through Carthage on their way to the site where they would build Rome. __________________ If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do."

09-10-2006, 03:34 AM	#4
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	Ok. Sounds intersting. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

09-10-2006, 10:20 AM	#5
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	indeed, it is a lovely read, and a brilliant piece of poetry from Publius! (Publius Virgelius Maro [Virgil]) __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

09-10-2006, 11:45 AM	#6
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	1. every culture has it's own myths; thus mythology encompasses all cultures. 2. today we have 'urban legends' which are myths in the making. 3. durinsbane2244 is a myth __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

09-10-2006, 01:09 PM	#8
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Aztec, yes. I've read a fair bit about the Aztecs and their mythology. I've found reading about the Aztecs absolutely fascinating. __________________ If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do."

09-10-2006, 01:31 PM	#9
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	They're fascinating all right, even if some of the names are particularly tongue-breaking. But I like the way how every name has a translation, much like Tolkien's Elvish. __________________ We are not things.

09-10-2006, 02:25 PM	#10
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	I love greek te best. So many stories. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

09-10-2006, 06:25 PM	#11
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I read the Aeneid recently. I liked it very much. Even more in the discussions on it. I'm sorry, Earni, but I liked it much more than the Iliad. At least, when read. Book II of the Aeneid was so powerful; Priam's death scene was heart-henching. Book IV was so dramatic, too! An actor, name o' Eldon Quick, just last Friday gave a live one-man performance of Book II of the Iliad. Great stuff! Can't wait till he comes back. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

09-11-2006, 06:51 AM	#15
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i always liked the one about Quetzelcoatl...especially the part when Cortez posed as him and enslaved a nation...yeah...that was greeeeaaat... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

09-11-2006, 07:31 AM	#16
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	If you like the Celtic stuff, look for a book called Faeries by Brian Froud and Alan Lee. Some great stories in there, which they lifted from various places, but the best things are the illustrations. Two other reasons to get a hold of it: the Tuatha de Danaan (Irish fairies) sound suspiciously similar to Tolkien's elves; and it's the same Alan Lee that designed the LOTR film sets. In my RPG days we used to plunder all sorts of mythoses (what IS the plural of mythos?) for inspiration.

09-11-2006, 07:35 AM	#17
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Ahh, an excellent book and made into a movie also. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

09-11-2006, 09:42 AM	#18
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Really? Which film? Did Froud or Lee have anything to do with it?

09-11-2006, 10:07 AM	#19
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Photographing Fairies (1998) Starring: Toby Stephens, Emily Woof Director: Nick Willing Rating __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

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