Martial arts: every thing thread

afro-elf · 07-17-2002, 11:00 AM

I'm back in Asia again for awhile. And I've been downing all the Kung Fu movies /Tv shows that I can

Does anyone here recall the UFC? ( ultimate fighting championships)

For those who don't it was a n event ( several ) in which it was a "no holds barred" multi martial arts competion. Basically all the punching, kicking arts were all crushed by grapplers.

Do you think martial arts makes people over confindent

I was watching some lady who had taken tae bo and said some insane remark like nobody had better mess with her.

I noticed that posters here said some similar things on what if they were suddenly transported into ME that recreational fencing would make them suddenly profiencient warriors

just the first thoughts

BeardofPants · 07-17-2002, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
Do you think martial arts makes people over confindent

Yes. And it's completely absurd. In a lot of ways, a young female is better off not knowing the basic defence skills, and being a little more wary, as opposed to doing self defence/martial arts and developing a complete sense of false confidence. I did Tae Kwon Do for a few years when I was younger, and got up to blue belt (I should start it again), and I remember being a cocky little shite!

Now of course, I realise that no matter what profficiency I am, there will always be someone bigger/better than me, that can take me out. And it is with this realisation, that probably makes me more likely to stay safe, as opposed to having *some* defence knowledge.

Wayfarer · 07-17-2002, 06:13 PM

Yeah...

Something that's pretty funny is that, even though I'm badly out of shape and have never taken any martial arts whatsoever, people Phear me.

But likewise, I've met the type of people you describe.

Erawyn · 07-21-2002, 09:56 PM

Yes i think it probably does make ppl too cocky, although i'm glad that i know the small bit of kickboxing that i do. I'm quite aware that i stand no chance against anyone on the street though!

Starlite · 07-21-2002, 11:28 PM

Speaking as a Mom of a Kung Fu student.....

I do see some "over confidence" in early students. However, my son, who's been taking classes since he was 5 (he's 10 now). Doesn't have that about him. In fact, he's more afraid to get into a fight, because he KNOWS what he can do to another person. We're lucky, because the school he attends (run by World Champion Karl Romain) teaches the students how to handle "street" situations but most importantly as part of the creed goes: "I must fight, only to protect myself or the lives of others". Especially, with the younger students, they emphasize that their Kung Fu is not an excuse to kick butt around school, but a discipline and a way of life.

Just my 2 cents.

mirrille · 07-22-2002, 02:04 AM

As someone with very little sports experience and just started dabbling in kung fu in university and isn't very good...well...actually quite terrible.
I'd say it's more humbling than anything.

Maybe one day I'll be as good as the people I see...but only if I work at it for YEARS.
They are so graceful...

One day I will have that much poise.
The style I started with isn't a combat style though. It's more performance style. It's very beautiful.

afro-elf · 07-22-2002, 02:13 AM

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The style I started with isn't a combat style though. It's more performance style. It's very beautiful

is it Wu Shu ?

mirrille · 07-22-2002, 03:46 AM

Why yes it is.

I like it because it is so elegant...um...when done properly. Not the way I do it.

The way I do it is an insult to all of wushu.

Elfmaster XK · 07-22-2002, 07:07 AM

I think you're right.

But still, at X-mas im starting Ninjutsu! N'yah!

I think i'll try not to be confident to prove you wrong!

Rand · 07-22-2002, 03:25 PM

I don't need karaty. I have the one power. *wraps you all up in solidifyed air*

j/k

I took karaty for a while. Yes it make me cocky as anything but I think that if I took it again I would be better about that. I really don't think that it should be taught to "little kids" though (starlit your son sounds like the most mature 10 year old I have ever heard of though.). Why? becuase little kids cant understand the maturity part of karaty. they just want to kick butt.

webwizard333 · 07-22-2002, 04:06 PM

I used to take karate when I was about seven, though I quit because it wasn't that much fun anymore (no more musical chairs

), but I did get my picture in the paper. My class never got a chance to get cocky, mainly because our parents and siblings were watching us and some of the moves we were taught were a bit absurd. So our wonderful brothers and sisters laughed a lot during the practice and we never felt especially cocky about our abilities.

Wayfarer · 07-23-2002, 02:08 PM

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But still, at X-mas im starting Ninjutsu!

I'm not sure I believe you.

I seem to recall that there's only one or two authentic ryu's still in existance... and they don't take many pupils.

But if you are... wow.

afro-elf · 07-23-2002, 02:21 PM

Mirrile

its nice to know that you are aware that your are is not a fighting art.

what weapons forms if any do you practice?

If given the chance I would study staff, kwan do, and straight sword. I used to love double broad sword. The straight sword seemed to "feminine" to me until Crouching tiger, hidden dragon.

The way chow yun fat (lei mu bai) wielded that weaopn in that movie was beautiful

anyway since i seem to have gotten the job in Japan. I might spend my summers in China.

Ninjutsu ...umm I'm QUITE skeptical

Rand · 07-24-2002, 01:15 AM

Actualy I would kind of like to take it again.

***Khamûl*** · 07-26-2002, 10:48 PM

I've never taken any kind of martial arts before. In fact, the closest I've come to martial arts is humming along with "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas.

I used to want to take some kind of karate or something back when Ninja Turtles were popular and I was about 6 or 7. I've pretty much given up hope of learning anything, since my interest has waned in recent years.

Spock · 07-27-2002, 05:56 PM

A.E. skeptical? Hmmmm

I've studied Ninjitsu since 1983. Been there, done that and met most everyone there is to meet. It's real, it's historic and useful doesn't even begin to describe it.

Starr Polish · 07-28-2002, 01:13 AM

I've been doing martial arts steadily since I was eight, and I've been exposed to it since I was four. My father and I (my sister used to) train under a student of George Dillman (and a whole bunch of other guys...heh). Yeah, I've been cocky about it before, but now that we've started sword work a lot of that has changed, since I simply cannot do it for the life of me. Most of the young MALES in my class are a heck of a lot cockier (and downright obnoxious) than the few females we do have.
Hmm...I say martial arts because we do a lot of different styles, some I don't know the names of. A lot of jujitsu, some tae kwan do, a lot of karate, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Stupid bokkan stuff. I keep hitting myself in the legs and whatnot. I almost sent my sword flying across the gym where we hold class, but I caught the very tip of it...yeep. I really do not like weapons work.

I'm also pretty sick of the eleven year old black belt who thinks he's better than me. (ooh, cockiness coming out). His moves are really sloppy, and he tries to hard for speed when he should be working on technique. Not that I'm anywhere near perfect on anything we do.

And I think more females should take some form of a self defence class AND heighten their self awareness. Martial arts isn't just about fighting (we actually aren't allowed to say that in my class, it's 'self defense') and breaking boards. We have tenets that we have to say at the beginning of class, and we're expected to follow them.

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I was watching some lady who had taken tae bo and said some insane remark like nobody had better mess with her.

::rolls around laughing:: That is so sad it's funny. Tae bo? ::snerk::

Spock · 07-28-2002, 08:19 AM

You're not allowed to say it's not about fighting? What is the reason or is it a dictate from the unenlightened.

afro-elf · 07-28-2002, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spock
A.E. skeptical? Hmmmm

I've studied Ninjitsu since 1983. Been there, done that and met most everyone there is to meet. It's real, it's historic and useful doesn't even begin to describe it.

Still doubtful of AUTHENTIC Ninjitsu as I am about Hwarang Do and Shaolin

Erawyn · 07-28-2002, 01:47 PM

I take kickboxing but i know very little about real martial arts. what are the differences between karate tae kwon do, jujitsu etc?? i feel so uneducated!

07-17-2002, 11:00 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Martial arts: every thing thread I'm back in Asia again for awhile. And I've been downing all the Kung Fu movies /Tv shows that I can Does anyone here recall the UFC? ( ultimate fighting championships) For those who don't it was a n event ( several ) in which it was a "no holds barred" multi martial arts competion. Basically all the punching, kicking arts were all crushed by grapplers. Do you think martial arts makes people over confindent I was watching some lady who had taken tae bo and said some insane remark like nobody had better mess with her. I noticed that posters here said some similar things on what if they were suddenly transported into ME that recreational fencing would make them suddenly profiencient warriors just the first thoughts __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-17-2002, 06:13 PM	#3
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Yeah... Something that's pretty funny is that, even though I'm badly out of shape and have never taken any martial arts whatsoever, people Phear me. But likewise, I've met the type of people you describe. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

07-21-2002, 09:56 PM	#4
Erawyn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: america junior Posts: 320	Yes i think it probably does make ppl too cocky, although i'm glad that i know the small bit of kickboxing that i do. I'm quite aware that i stand no chance against anyone on the street though! __________________ peace never hurt anyone "Be not so bigoted to any custom as to worship it at the expense of Truth." Johann Georg von Zimmermann

07-21-2002, 11:28 PM	#5
Starlite Sapling Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Land of Lullabyes Posts: 7	Speaking as a Mom of a Kung Fu student..... I do see some "over confidence" in early students. However, my son, who's been taking classes since he was 5 (he's 10 now). Doesn't have that about him. In fact, he's more afraid to get into a fight, because he KNOWS what he can do to another person. We're lucky, because the school he attends (run by World Champion Karl Romain) teaches the students how to handle "street" situations but most importantly as part of the creed goes: "I must fight, only to protect myself or the lives of others". Especially, with the younger students, they emphasize that their Kung Fu is not an excuse to kick butt around school, but a discipline and a way of life. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Snoogins! "If you get confused, listen to the music play."--Grateful Dead

07-22-2002, 07:07 AM	#9
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	I think you're right. But still, at X-mas im starting Ninjutsu! N'yah! I think i'll try not to be confident to prove you wrong! __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

07-22-2002, 02:04 AM	#6
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	As someone with very little sports experience and just started dabbling in kung fu in university and isn't very good...well...actually quite terrible. I'd say it's more humbling than anything. Maybe one day I'll be as good as the people I see...but only if I work at it for YEARS. They are so graceful... One day I will have that much poise. The style I started with isn't a combat style though. It's more performance style. It's very beautiful.

07-22-2002, 03:46 AM	#8
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	Why yes it is. I like it because it is so elegant...um...when done properly. Not the way I do it. The way I do it is an insult to all of wushu.

07-22-2002, 03:25 PM	#10
Rand Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I port around from day to day. Who knows where I will be now? Posts: 16	I don't need karaty. I have the one power. wraps you all up in solidifyed air j/k I took karaty for a while. Yes it make me cocky as anything but I think that if I took it again I would be better about that. I really don't think that it should be taught to "little kids" though (starlit your son sounds like the most mature 10 year old I have ever heard of though.). Why? becuase little kids cant understand the maturity part of karaty. they just want to kick butt. __________________ The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist. The wind was not the beginning. There are neather beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning...

07-22-2002, 04:06 PM	#11
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	I used to take karate when I was about seven, though I quit because it wasn't that much fun anymore (no more musical chairs ), but I did get my picture in the paper. My class never got a chance to get cocky, mainly because our parents and siblings were watching us and some of the moves we were taught were a bit absurd. So our wonderful brothers and sisters laughed a lot during the practice and we never felt especially cocky about our abilities. __________________ Boo!

07-23-2002, 02:21 PM	#13
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Mirrile its nice to know that you are aware that your are is not a fighting art. what weapons forms if any do you practice? If given the chance I would study staff, kwan do, and straight sword. I used to love double broad sword. The straight sword seemed to "feminine" to me until Crouching tiger, hidden dragon. The way chow yun fat (lei mu bai) wielded that weaopn in that movie was beautiful anyway since i seem to have gotten the job in Japan. I might spend my summers in China. Ninjutsu ...umm I'm QUITE skeptical __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-24-2002, 01:15 AM	#14
Rand Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I port around from day to day. Who knows where I will be now? Posts: 16	Actualy I would kind of like to take it again. __________________ The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist. The wind was not the beginning. There are neather beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning...

07-26-2002, 10:48 PM	#15
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	I've never taken any kind of martial arts before. In fact, the closest I've come to martial arts is humming along with "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas. I used to want to take some kind of karate or something back when Ninja Turtles were popular and I was about 6 or 7. I've pretty much given up hope of learning anything, since my interest has waned in recent years. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

07-27-2002, 05:56 PM	#16
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	A.E. skeptical? Hmmmm I've studied Ninjitsu since 1983. Been there, done that and met most everyone there is to meet. It's real, it's historic and useful doesn't even begin to describe it. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-28-2002, 08:19 AM	#18
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	You're not allowed to say it's not about fighting? What is the reason or is it a dictate from the unenlightened. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-28-2002, 01:47 PM	#20
Erawyn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: america junior Posts: 320	I take kickboxing but i know very little about real martial arts. what are the differences between karate tae kwon do, jujitsu etc?? i feel so uneducated! __________________ peace never hurt anyone "Be not so bigoted to any custom as to worship it at the expense of Truth." Johann Georg von Zimmermann

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