why would you want hair as a gift?!

Giroth · 05-10-2002, 03:18 PM

Gimli asked for some of Galadriel's hair... why?

Just kind of wierd

olsonm · 05-10-2002, 03:50 PM

It was something of Galadriel that Gimli could take with him.

Maybe a little weird but it makes sense.

Renille · 05-10-2002, 07:29 PM

Gimli had previously distrusted Galadriel. When he found how beautiful and wise she really was, he was awed by her prescence. He wanted a little piece of what he considered the most beautiful creature in Middle Earth.

Elvet · 05-10-2002, 07:53 PM

I think it also repesents the change that happens to people on a journey. Dwarfs are supposed to be very materialistic. For Gimli to want something of no intrinsic value shows that he has been changed by his experience at Lorien. Dwarfs and Elves are sometimes at odds, so all the more touching that a special relationship should develop between Galadriel and Gimli.

Wulažg · 05-10-2002, 09:46 PM

Plus galadriel's hair was the most beautiful of everybody(except perhaps Lutien Tinuviel-debatable), the inspiration for Feanor creating the Silmarils(besides the Two Trees-again, debatable)

***IronParrot*** · 05-10-2002, 11:30 PM

If I were in Gimli's situation, I would ask for a lock of her hair.

StrawberryIcecream · 05-11-2002, 04:23 AM

"unless it is permitted to ask, nay, to name a single strand of your hair, which surpassess the gold of the earth as the stars surpass the gems of the mine."

Well obviously he though incredibly beautiful as he is saying it is better than the gems of the mine and several times throughout the books he mentions that the gems are incredibly awe inspiring. And Galadriel did command him to ask so why not take the oppurtunity?!

Elf Girl · 05-11-2002, 08:37 AM

The light of the Laurelin was in her hair.

Radagast The Brown · 05-11-2002, 12:02 PM

mainly, he wants her hair because it was beautiful.

Tar-Elendil · 05-12-2002, 04:13 PM

this is why..becuz it says in her hair was the mingling of the light of the Two Trees..galadriels hair inspired fëanor to create the silmarils..that explains how surprised the elves were when they heard his request of galadriel's hair..

Radagast The Brown · 05-13-2002, 01:26 PM

And they were suprise from her answer too.

Elf Girl · 05-14-2002, 02:00 PM

Yeah, she refused to give any to Fëanor, one of the Noldor, and now she gives it to Gimli, a dwarf. I'd be surprised. I was surprised.

Radagast The Brown · 05-14-2002, 02:16 PM

I wasn't. Galadriel is smart elf. She doesn't care if who that ask for her hair is elf or not she care if he's nice or evil.

samwise of the shire · 05-15-2002, 11:41 PM

We kind of have to look at the characters here:
Gimli's down to earth, doesn't really flaunt his wealth, he's humble(for a dwarf), steadfast and honest. A good dwarf. He asked his request out of REMEMBRANCE of Gladriel and out of awe and RESPECT for her, the lock of hair would become an HEIRLOOM of his house and THAT shows he would treasure it above EVERYTHING out of REMEBRANCE and DEVOTION to her. A truely WORTHY gift to give to a WORTHY dwarf. And Galadriel KNEW that he would respect it and basically DIE to keep her name from being slandared, so because she realized that he meant what he said she gave it to him.
FEANOR on the other hand struck me as a kind of jerk with a bad additude. I dont CARE if Melkor corrupted his heart an' everythin' he was still a jerk. I didn't like him. He seemed proud, haughty, disdainful and kind of a...jerk. Would he have revered and respected her hair if Galadriel had given it to him? He'd probably go showing it off and flaunting it and go on bragging on about how HE Feanor had won a lock of hair from Galadriel the queen of Lothlorien, unlike Gimli who doesn't mention her hair ONCE outside of Lothlorien if I remember rightly, he does protect her name from slander by Eomer and spoke only good of her. A wonderful gift for a worthy dwarf who deserved it because he was sincere about it.
Anywho that's the way I think about it.
Sam

Finrod Felagund · 05-16-2002, 08:56 AM

Well Galadriel wasn't queen of Lorien or even a queen when Feanor asked for some hair but I see what you're saying.

jerseydevil · 05-16-2002, 09:49 AM

I heard that the dwarves were starting to experiment with cloning.

As some others have indicated - I feel the reason Galadriel ended up granting his wish is because of his sincerity. In terms of wanting the strand of hair in the first place - he wanted to have a piece of her (more than some material item) so he could have something to always remind him of her kindness and beauty.

galadriel · 05-16-2002, 04:36 PM

hee hee, dwarves with cloning technology... I always knew those guys had some high-tech equipment up their sleeves.

Tar-Elendil · 05-16-2002, 05:07 PM

it says galadriel looked into the mind and heart of feanor and saw his thoughts..galadriel fought against feanor's rebellion at alaquande(thishappened after feanor asked for a tress of galadriels hair)..they were ever rivals...
galadriel sensed the evil of feanor..that is why in my opinion she didnt give him her hair..

Sicirus · 05-16-2002, 05:27 PM

I've always belvied it to be because he wanted to remember her by something he supposd was not a great adeal as what almost everyone else got.
Plus why not?

samwise of the shire · 05-17-2002, 07:58 PM

Wait, wouldn't the ELVES invent cloning? I mean it has to do with biology, and biology is the study of living things so I think it'd be the ELVES who'd invent cloning because they're so...so...so...so...bioligical or whatnot.
Sam

05-10-2002, 03:18 PM	#1
Giroth The Dragonqueen Join Date: May 2002 Location: sunny Cali! Posts: 423	why would you want hair as a gift?! Gimli asked for some of Galadriel's hair... why? Just kind of wierd

05-10-2002, 03:50 PM	#2
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	It was something of Galadriel that Gimli could take with him. Maybe a little weird but it makes sense. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

05-10-2002, 07:29 PM	#3
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	Gimli had previously distrusted Galadriel. When he found how beautiful and wise she really was, he was awed by her prescence. He wanted a little piece of what he considered the most beautiful creature in Middle Earth. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

05-10-2002, 07:53 PM	#4
Elvet Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Orillia, Ontario Posts: 221	I think it also repesents the change that happens to people on a journey. Dwarfs are supposed to be very materialistic. For Gimli to want something of no intrinsic value shows that he has been changed by his experience at Lorien. Dwarfs and Elves are sometimes at odds, so all the more touching that a special relationship should develop between Galadriel and Gimli. __________________ "But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know."

05-10-2002, 09:46 PM	#5
Wulažg Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 306	Plus galadriel's hair was the most beautiful of everybody(except perhaps Lutien Tinuviel-debatable), the inspiration for Feanor creating the Silmarils(besides the Two Trees-again, debatable) __________________ FRODO LIVES!! EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO rule the world!

05-10-2002, 11:30 PM	#6
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05-11-2002, 04:23 AM	#7
StrawberryIcecream Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In my jeans Posts: 915	"unless it is permitted to ask, nay, to name a single strand of your hair, which surpassess the gold of the earth as the stars surpass the gems of the mine." Well obviously he though incredibly beautiful as he is saying it is better than the gems of the mine and several times throughout the books he mentions that the gems are incredibly awe inspiring. And Galadriel did command him to ask so why not take the oppurtunity?! __________________ www.foolofatook.com for all you pippin's out there. Last edited by StrawberryIcecream : 05-11-2002 at 04:27 AM.

05-11-2002, 08:37 AM	#8
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	The light of the Laurelin was in her hair. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

05-11-2002, 12:02 PM	#9
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	mainly, he wants her hair because it was beautiful. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-12-2002, 04:13 PM	#10
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	this is why..becuz it says in her hair was the mingling of the light of the Two Trees..galadriels hair inspired fëanor to create the silmarils..that explains how surprised the elves were when they heard his request of galadriel's hair.. __________________ Why can we not be sober..

05-13-2002, 01:26 PM	#11
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	And they were suprise from her answer too. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-14-2002, 02:00 PM	#12
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Yeah, she refused to give any to Fëanor, one of the Noldor, and now she gives it to Gimli, a dwarf. I'd be surprised. I was surprised. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

05-14-2002, 02:16 PM	#13
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I wasn't. Galadriel is smart elf. She doesn't care if who that ask for her hair is elf or not she care if he's nice or evil. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-15-2002, 11:41 PM	#14
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	We kind of have to look at the characters here: Gimli's down to earth, doesn't really flaunt his wealth, he's humble(for a dwarf), steadfast and honest. A good dwarf. He asked his request out of REMEMBRANCE of Gladriel and out of awe and RESPECT for her, the lock of hair would become an HEIRLOOM of his house and THAT shows he would treasure it above EVERYTHING out of REMEBRANCE and DEVOTION to her. A truely WORTHY gift to give to a WORTHY dwarf. And Galadriel KNEW that he would respect it and basically DIE to keep her name from being slandared, so because she realized that he meant what he said she gave it to him. FEANOR on the other hand struck me as a kind of jerk with a bad additude. I dont CARE if Melkor corrupted his heart an' everythin' he was still a jerk. I didn't like him. He seemed proud, haughty, disdainful and kind of a...jerk. Would he have revered and respected her hair if Galadriel had given it to him? He'd probably go showing it off and flaunting it and go on bragging on about how HE Feanor had won a lock of hair from Galadriel the queen of Lothlorien, unlike Gimli who doesn't mention her hair ONCE outside of Lothlorien if I remember rightly, he does protect her name from slander by Eomer and spoke only good of her. A wonderful gift for a worthy dwarf who deserved it because he was sincere about it. Anywho that's the way I think about it. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

05-16-2002, 08:56 AM	#15
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	Well Galadriel wasn't queen of Lorien or even a queen when Feanor asked for some hair but I see what you're saying. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!" Last edited by Finrod Felagund : 05-16-2002 at 02:42 PM.

05-16-2002, 09:49 AM	#16
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	I heard that the dwarves were starting to experiment with cloning. As some others have indicated - I feel the reason Galadriel ended up granting his wish is because of his sincerity. In terms of wanting the strand of hair in the first place - he wanted to have a piece of her (more than some material item) so he could have something to always remind him of her kindness and beauty. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-16-2002, 04:36 PM	#17
galadriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: a castle made of clouds Posts: 459	hee hee, dwarves with cloning technology... I always knew those guys had some high-tech equipment up their sleeves. __________________ Human kind cannot bear very much reality. dreamflower - for all things Lady Galadriel

05-16-2002, 05:07 PM	#18
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	it says galadriel looked into the mind and heart of feanor and saw his thoughts..galadriel fought against feanor's rebellion at alaquande(thishappened after feanor asked for a tress of galadriels hair)..they were ever rivals... galadriel sensed the evil of feanor..that is why in my opinion she didnt give him her hair.. __________________ Why can we not be sober..

05-16-2002, 05:27 PM	#19
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	I've always belvied it to be because he wanted to remember her by something he supposd was not a great adeal as what almost everyone else got. Plus why not? __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

05-17-2002, 07:58 PM	#20
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Wait, wouldn't the ELVES invent cloning? I mean it has to do with biology, and biology is the study of living things so I think it'd be the ELVES who'd invent cloning because they're so...so...so...so...bioligical or whatnot. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

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