A Romantic Speculation

allsirgarnet · 02-08-2002, 06:00 PM

There isnt much romance in the LOTR and what there is seems pretty sparce.About the only "Romantic' scenes to me are those between Faramir and Eowyn who even share a KISS!

So now a few speculative questions based on the two lovers tale mentioned above.

Where,when and under what circumstances do you think the following couples shared their first kiss?.Brownie points for good detail,romanticism and fitting the background of LOTR.

Aragorn and Arwen.

Sam and Rose.

Eomer and Lothiriel.

Alandiel · 02-09-2002, 06:03 PM

Well I would assume aragorn and arwen when they first meet in the woods, I mean they didnt fall and love and not touch right? I mean at this point they didnt know it was forbidden.

Brimvalir · 02-14-2002, 06:32 PM

Read the Story of Beren and Luithiun (forgive spelling) in the Silmarillion - its very romantic

markedel · 02-14-2002, 08:19 PM

How about
Turin and Niniel-best siblings in a romantic role
Dis-the real bearded lady
Erendis-frigider then the average numenorian
Nimrodel-one of the less lucky elven folk
Maeglin-most treacherous unrequited love

Ozymandias · 02-14-2002, 10:52 PM

The story of Turin and Niniel is one of the most powerful in The Silmarillion, IMO.

Laurelyn · 02-14-2002, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ozymandias
The story of Turin and Niniel is one of the most powerful in The Silmarillion, IMO.

Yeah. I agree.

Nimrodel · 02-15-2002, 08:47 AM

I felt sorry for Findulas, unrequited love sucks!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-01-2002, 12:19 AM

Eowyn has that problem for a while, too, Nimrodel. I always felt really bad for her, when Aragorn is heading off for the Paths of the Dead, and not only makes her stay home (not for long! hahaha...nevermind.) but is also rejecting her love (sorta). Anyway, I agree, unrequited love is awful!

RosieCotton · 03-01-2002, 11:52 AM

Sam and Rosie....
probably right after they returned.....she couldn't have kissed him goodbye because she didn't know he was going (poor girl!)
This is a cute thread!
~Rosie~

Varda-Me · 03-02-2002, 01:55 AM

I had always assumed that since Aragorn and Arwen grew up together, they would have shared their first kiss as young adults, far from the watchful eye of ol' dad (Elrond). After all, Aragorn was raised by Elrond at Rivendell and Arwen is Elrond's daughter. However, I just read that they didn't meet until Aragorn was 20 (I wonder how many centuries old Arwen was - talk about your May/December romance). Obviously, Arwen, as an elf, is much older than Aragorn, so they couldn't have shared a childhood. So, my question is, where was Arwen during Aragorn's time at Rivendell as a child/young adult?

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-02-2002, 02:34 AM

I would assume that Arwen was in Lothlorien then, in her mother's land (Did anyone else have a hard time thinking of Galadriel as Arwen's grandmother?), and that would explain why Aragorn would mistake her for Luthien.

Selwythe · 03-02-2002, 05:23 AM

It's written in the Appendices that she was in Lorien, something like "dwelt long in the land of her mother and was only recently restored to...", don't know much about quotes.

What about Idril and Tuor? Those two are a sad reminder of what Turin could have been.

Elf Girl · 03-02-2002, 10:00 AM

Aragorn and Arwen didn't actually meet until Aragorn was an adult, did they?

RosieCotton · 03-02-2002, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Aragorn and Arwen didn't actually meet until Aragorn was an adult, did they?

I believe they met when he was a young adult in Rivendell while Aragorn was still under the care of Elrond. The whole story is in Appendix A after ROTK.
~Rosie~

02-08-2002, 06:00 PM	#1
allsirgarnet Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 25	A Romantic Speculation There isnt much romance in the LOTR and what there is seems pretty sparce.About the only "Romantic' scenes to me are those between Faramir and Eowyn who even share a KISS! So now a few speculative questions based on the two lovers tale mentioned above. Where,when and under what circumstances do you think the following couples shared their first kiss?.Brownie points for good detail,romanticism and fitting the background of LOTR. Aragorn and Arwen. Sam and Rose. Eomer and Lothiriel.

02-14-2002, 06:32 PM	#3
Brimvalir Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 103	no Romance Read the Story of Beren and Luithiun (forgive spelling) in the Silmarillion - its very romantic __________________ Swords are of no more use here ... All that is gold does not glitter nor are all those who wander lost......

02-14-2002, 08:19 PM	#4
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	How about Turin and Niniel-best siblings in a romantic role Dis-the real bearded lady Erendis-frigider then the average numenorian Nimrodel-one of the less lucky elven folk Maeglin-most treacherous unrequited love __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

03-01-2002, 12:19 AM	#8
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Eowyn has that problem for a while, too, Nimrodel. I always felt really bad for her, when Aragorn is heading off for the Paths of the Dead, and not only makes her stay home (not for long! hahaha...nevermind.) but is also rejecting her love (sorta). Anyway, I agree, unrequited love is awful! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-01-2002, 11:52 AM	#9
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	Sam and Rosie.... probably right after they returned.....she couldn't have kissed him goodbye because she didn't know he was going (poor girl!) This is a cute thread! ~Rosie~ __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

02-09-2002, 06:03 PM	#2
Alandiel Sapling Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12	Well I would assume aragorn and arwen when they first meet in the woods, I mean they didnt fall and love and not touch right? I mean at this point they didnt know it was forbidden.

02-14-2002, 10:52 PM	#5
Ozymandias Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 20	The story of Turin and Niniel is one of the most powerful in The Silmarillion, IMO.

02-15-2002, 08:47 AM	#7
Nimrodel Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 18	I felt sorry for Findulas, unrequited love sucks!

03-02-2002, 01:55 AM	#10
Varda-Me Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 40	I had always assumed that since Aragorn and Arwen grew up together, they would have shared their first kiss as young adults, far from the watchful eye of ol' dad (Elrond). After all, Aragorn was raised by Elrond at Rivendell and Arwen is Elrond's daughter. However, I just read that they didn't meet until Aragorn was 20 (I wonder how many centuries old Arwen was - talk about your May/December romance). Obviously, Arwen, as an elf, is much older than Aragorn, so they couldn't have shared a childhood. So, my question is, where was Arwen during Aragorn's time at Rivendell as a child/young adult?

03-02-2002, 02:34 AM	#11
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I would assume that Arwen was in Lothlorien then, in her mother's land (Did anyone else have a hard time thinking of Galadriel as Arwen's grandmother?), and that would explain why Aragorn would mistake her for Luthien. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-02-2002, 05:23 AM	#12
Selwythe Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 221	It's written in the Appendices that she was in Lorien, something like "dwelt long in the land of her mother and was only recently restored to...", don't know much about quotes. What about Idril and Tuor? Those two are a sad reminder of what Turin could have been. __________________ If I say you have a beautiful body, will you hold it against me?

03-02-2002, 10:00 AM	#13
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Aragorn and Arwen didn't actually meet until Aragorn was an adult, did they? __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

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