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Shadowfax at Grey Havens?
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It says a grey horse. What happened to Shadowfax???? Its really bugging me now that I noticed it.
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i think shadowfax was left behind because gandalf didn't want him to be trapped for eternity on an island
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02-03-2003, 07:57 PM | #3 |
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well as far as I can remember, shadowfax isn't really Gandalf's horse..right?
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yeah, and Gandalf and Shadowfax seemed pretty close....so what happened to him??? lol
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If I remember correctly, Shadowfax IS grey. They just made him white in the movie.
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I thought he was a very light color grey/white silverish....lemme see....
Ah-ha! Found it! From FOTR Quote:
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I think the "grey horse" mentioned at the Grey Havens is Shadowfax, and I think that he wasn't named (Tolkien didn't write, "beside Shadowfax stood a figure....") because the focus at that point isn't on the horse, but on Gandalf.
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i agree with shadowfax
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Look on the bright side. He gets to meet his great-great-great grandaddy Nahar.
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Yes, I was going to point out about the figure, but Shadowfax beat me to it.
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That's what I was thinking.
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I think there's also something Gandalf says to Shadowfax about "let us never be parted until the end" or some such. So I always thought that it was Shadowfax.
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ok...that makes sense I didnt even notice it until a couple days ago when I was looking something up.
But here's another question. Were the Nine Horses maeras (sp?) stolen from the Rohirrim? I seem to remember reading that somewhere, but dont know now... (If this is off topic I'll just make a new topic for it )
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Letter no. 268:
I think Shadowfax certainly went with Gandalf [across the Sea], though this is not stated. I feel it is better not to state everything (and indeed it is more realistic, since in chronicles and accounts of 'real' history, many facts that some enquirer would like to know are omitted, and the truth has to be discovered or guessed from such evidence as there is). I should argue so: Shadowfax came of a special race being as it were an Elvish equivalent of ordinary horses: his 'blood' came from 'West over Sea'. It would not be unfitting for him to 'go West'. Gandalf was not 'dying', or going by a special grace to the Western Land, before passing on 'beyond the circles of the world': he was going home, being plainly one of the 'immortals', an angelic emissary of the angelic governors (Valar) of the Earth. He would take or could take what he loved. Gandalf was last seen riding Shadowfax. He must have ridden to the Havens, and it is inconceivable that he would [have] ridden any beast but Shadowfax; so Shadowfax must have been there. A chronicler winding up a long tale, and for the moment moved principally by the sorrow of those left behind (himself among them!) might omit mention of the horse, but had the great horse also shared in the grief of sundering, he could hardly have been forgotten.
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