Martial arts: every thing thread - Page 3

***Khamûl*** · 08-04-2002, 01:15 AM

Do you mean that you want this thread closed?

afro-elf · 08-04-2002, 01:36 AM

Nope for others may wish to post in the future

***Khamûl*** · 08-04-2002, 01:43 AM

Sorry. I must have read Spock's post wrong. Anyway, if someone else posts, please be on topic. This seems to have wandered a bit...

Spock · 08-08-2002, 11:33 AM

No you didn't read me wrong. This thread has played itself out. A.E. face it, no posts in four days. You and I carried it heavily even with our differences.
I'm trying to help you "moderate" dead web space and free up room.
Hope I'm not stepping on your toes.

afro-elf · 08-08-2002, 11:45 AM

yes but there are some threads that stay dead for months and when a newbie posts the same topic they get slammed for not reviewing older post.

if you check MOST of the threads here are not closed. They just play themselves out hoping to revived

Spock · 08-08-2002, 08:02 PM

I agree that's why I suggested closing, locking or deleting the thread. When I moderated a board we would close the thread, i.e. lock it, and then leave it for about two weeks before deleting the thread entirely. This kept space free of old closed and not visited threads.

Faramir · 08-08-2002, 08:34 PM

I don't see the point of MA. Why learn all that fancy crud when a well aimed punch between the eyes or a gun is just as good. I've taken it, and listen, you do not want to take it. Understand? DO NOT.

afro-elf · 08-09-2002, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faramir
I don't see the point of MA. Why learn all that fancy crud when a well aimed punch between the eyes or a gun is just as good. I've taken it, and listen, you do not want to take it. Understand? DO NOT.

It depends what art you take. If you are taking something "fancy", I agree that it really won't help you that much in a straight self defense situation.

However, if your learn some straight Whoop A$$ fighting style it may come in handy.

who ALWAYS carries a gun with them?

Spock · 08-09-2002, 08:09 AM

who ALWAYS carries a gun with them? [/B][/QUOTE]

Me, almost always.

I decided, somewhere after my second decade of training, that I'd prefer not to get dirty when I go out. This goes double if I'm in the company of a lady.

Starr Polish · 08-09-2002, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faramir
I don't see the point of MA. Why learn all that fancy crud when a well aimed punch between the eyes or a gun is just as good. I've taken it, and listen, you do not want to take it. Understand? DO NOT.

For someone who complains about others voicing rigid opinions, you certainly have no qualms about expressing your own equally rigid ones...
And a 'well aimed punch between the eyes' is not just as good, nor is a gun. I'm not a supporter of gun control, but I don't think of using a gun as self defense except in the most extreme cases. I actually feel safer with a knife under a pillow than a gun under the bed (not that I own a gun, but my father AND stepfather both do)...also, one of the main 'creeds' of martial arts is only to defend. If we don't have to permantently damage our attacker to get out of a situation, we don't.
Maybe you went to one of the schools that was just fancy footwork and not much out, but there are a few very good schools out there that are actually useful.

Anyway...

I'm getting really irritated with my weapons class. I think it's just because I'm no good at it

but arg! My instructor is going way too fast, and I can't keep up. Weapons aren't my strong point, I prefer hand techniques. I guess I just need to practice. Stupid bokkan/tengu.

Rand · 08-09-2002, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faramir
I don't see the point of MA. Why learn all that fancy crud when a well aimed punch between the eyes

Punch = MA. Sorry. It does.

afro-elf · 08-09-2002, 01:30 PM

Because I spend most of my time working/living/traveling overseas a gun not a very doable option.

Starr Polish · 08-09-2002, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rand

Punch = MA. Sorry. It does.

No, it doesn't. MA is far more than random punching and kicking. There is actually a lot of anatomy involved, and developing natural defense skills. True martial artists are more about protecting themselves from the punches than actually throwing them out.

afro-elf · 08-10-2002, 04:18 AM

Starr there are different schools of thought on this. Example, in Japan you have Do and Ju(i)tsu. One, Do is more of how pop culture thinks of Martial Arts: as a philosophical thing. Ju(i)tsu is more about the "SKILL" of fighting.

Boxing and wrestling are just as must as MA as Tae Kwon Do.

Starr Polish · 08-10-2002, 01:57 PM

Hmm...yes, but since Ju(i)tsu, Do, and kick boxing are all MA, you can't just say MA = punching.
If you can't tell, I hate generalizations.

Spock · 08-10-2002, 02:01 PM

Personally I slip the ring on and become "invisible".

afro-elf · 08-10-2002, 02:03 PM

I don't think that he meant punching is a tactic of martial arts thus punching equals martial arts. recall it was faramis who said

Quote:

I don't see the point of MA. Why learn all that fancy crud when a well aimed punch between the eyes

i think that all rand was saying that punching is a part of MA

Starr Polish · 08-10-2002, 02:04 PM

Oh...sorry. ::bows out::

afro-elf · 08-10-2002, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spock
Personally I slip the ring on and become "invisible".

LOL

Faramir · 08-22-2002, 10:31 AM

I only say this because of an annoying past with Martial Arts. I must've worked at for a long time, and it gets hard after awhile. 3 lessons a week can be hard. They also expect a lot from you. I know I was a little crass in saying it, but I was just stating my dislike of it.

Quote:

For one who is against rigid opinions Faramir, you sure don't find any trouble stating yours.

Do as I say, not as I do.

08-04-2002, 01:15 AM	#41
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	Do you mean that you want this thread closed? __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

08-04-2002, 01:36 AM	#42
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Nope for others may wish to post in the future __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-04-2002, 01:43 AM	#43
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	Sorry. I must have read Spock's post wrong. Anyway, if someone else posts, please be on topic. This seems to have wandered a bit... __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

08-08-2002, 11:33 AM	#44
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	No you didn't read me wrong. This thread has played itself out. A.E. face it, no posts in four days. You and I carried it heavily even with our differences. I'm trying to help you "moderate" dead web space and free up room. Hope I'm not stepping on your toes. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

08-08-2002, 11:45 AM	#45
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	yes but there are some threads that stay dead for months and when a newbie posts the same topic they get slammed for not reviewing older post. if you check MOST of the threads here are not closed. They just play themselves out hoping to revived __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-08-2002, 08:02 PM	#46
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	I agree that's why I suggested closing, locking or deleting the thread. When I moderated a board we would close the thread, i.e. lock it, and then leave it for about two weeks before deleting the thread entirely. This kept space free of old closed and not visited threads. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

08-08-2002, 08:34 PM	#47
Faramir Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ithilien Posts: 353	I don't see the point of MA. Why learn all that fancy crud when a well aimed punch between the eyes or a gun is just as good. I've taken it, and listen, you do not want to take it. Understand? DO NOT. __________________ This is the Window of the Sunset, Henneth Annun, fairest of all the falls of Ithilien, land of many fountains."-Faramir, Chapter IV, The Two Towers ========================== FRODO LIVES!!! ========================== YODA IS DA MAN!!! ========================== I Love Jesus!

08-09-2002, 08:09 AM	#49
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	who ALWAYS carries a gun with them? [/B][/QUOTE] Me, almost always. I decided, somewhere after my second decade of training, that I'd prefer not to get dirty when I go out. This goes double if I'm in the company of a lady. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Last edited by Spock : 08-09-2002 at 08:11 AM.

08-09-2002, 01:30 PM	#52
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Because I spend most of my time working/living/traveling overseas a gun not a very doable option. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 08-09-2002 at 01:31 PM.

08-10-2002, 04:18 AM	#54
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Starr there are different schools of thought on this. Example, in Japan you have Do and Ju(i)tsu. One, Do is more of how pop culture thinks of Martial Arts: as a philosophical thing. Ju(i)tsu is more about the "SKILL" of fighting. Boxing and wrestling are just as must as MA as Tae Kwon Do. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-10-2002, 01:57 PM	#55
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Hmm...yes, but since Ju(i)tsu, Do, and kick boxing are all MA, you can't just say MA = punching. If you can't tell, I hate generalizations. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

08-10-2002, 02:01 PM	#56
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Personally I slip the ring on and become "invisible". __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

08-10-2002, 02:04 PM	#58
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Oh...sorry. ::bows out:: __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

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