M. Night Shyamalan - Page 2

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-05-2006, 12:10 AM

Not my consensus! My consensus is that the mood made it worth the time.

Rev. Justin Timberlake · 04-05-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosie Gamgee

I agree that Quaker English was probably right for the context of the story, yes. I just think it was clumsily written, is all.

What I mean is, they weren't from that time. They (the adults) never grew up talking in that manner. It was all fake.

Sure, pro actors could pull it off pretty easily, but these weren't pro actors. I think it is reasonable to expect people to sound "weird" and "off" and "stilted" in that situation. It's like if you have to suddenly go off to a village and adopt Quaker English. Would it sound natural? I doubt it.

Anyway, it's been a long time since I saw Village--I could be wrong on a couple things...

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-05-2006, 02:11 PM

Perhaps, Rev., but there are a few things to take into consideration:

A) These people seemed to be, as a whole, relatively well-informed people. It wouldn't have been difficult for them to do a little research on QE to get it right.

B) They had apparently been speaking in this way for many years. One would think that, even if it didn't sound quite correct, they would have settled into their own, more natural-sounding dialect of QE by then.

Rev. Justin Timberlake · 04-05-2006, 02:57 PM

Bah. I'd have to watch it again to refresh my memory, and I'm not going to.

Rosie Gamgee · 04-05-2006, 04:10 PM

btw, who are these 'pro actors' you talkin' about, there, Rev.?

Rev. Justin Timberlake · 04-05-2006, 04:20 PM

Professional actors. Skilled actors.

Rosie Gamgee · 04-05-2006, 04:25 PM

Well, Willie Hurt and maybe Brendan Fraiser perhaps aren't the best of actors. I think Joaquin Pheonix is a pretty good one. Brice Dallas Howard did a great job, seeing (get it? 'seeing'

) as she's not blind, and it was her first movie, wasn't it? Sigourney Weaver is a pretty good actress IMO.
But at any rate, they're all 'professional actors'.

Rev. Justin Timberlake · 04-06-2006, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosie Gamgee

But at any rate, they're all 'professional actors'.

Their characters aren't. That was my point. IIRC, Hurt was a school teacher. Not sure about the rest.

Rosie Gamgee · 04-06-2006, 01:02 PM

Ah!! I get it now. Okay; yes, you're right: their characters weren't good actors at all.

You know, I wonder if it is more difficult to act bad acting well, as it were, or to simply act well. ...The things my brain comes up with...

hectorberlioz · 07-03-2006, 02:38 PM

I have to respect the well-done criticsim of The Rev, as well as form everyone else...definitely some things well pointed-out.

The Sixth Sense I "watched" this movie when I was 13 or 14. I was so freaked out I kept my eyes closed nearly the whole time. Did I "get" the plot twist at the end? No! Not until way later. Very awesome movie.

Unbreakable This film has been unjustly criticised, IMO. Samuel l Jackson was awesome in it, as was Robin W. Penn. Bruce Willis was a tad off...but still in good mode. The twist here made a big impression on me, since I had not yet watched The Sixth Sense again. Maybe that's why I liked/like it so much. Anyways, it's defnitely the movie of Shayamalan's that I've watched the most.

Signs My personal favorite, for all the actors, the great script overall. In the theater the alien really made me jump when it came onscreen onscreen

inside of the movie. But when it really appeared? Nah.

The Village. I liked it, a lot. But despite the ending which caught me by surprise, I was a bit detached from keeping up with the story.

I do plan on seeing Night's next film of course...

EDIT: a word about the "acting" in The Village. It did occur to me during the movie that the accents of these people just weren't right. I've lived a lot around Amish and Menonites, and even though those accents are going to be different from what they use to be, I knew that the people of the village should have a certain way of saying things, ya know?

Arien the Maia · 07-04-2006, 08:57 PM

hmmm...let's see....

The Sixth Sense
I really did like this movie alot. it was unpredictable for me and basically a thriller. but...liek most thrillers, the second time I saw it, I wasn't as impressed. So that kinda sucked

Unbreakable
I only saw this once and (unfortunately) I went in with expectations that it would be just like the Sixth Sense which of course it wasn't. I didn't think it was a great movie all in all.

Signs
OMG....I LOVED THIS! truely! I was scared so much throughout the whole thing! I was even scared the second and third time I watched it on DVD. It totally freaked me out b/c it was something that seemed WAY more plausible than the events that happened in the Ring (which, if I remember correctly, was released shortly after or around the same time.)

The Village
This was pretty good even the second time around. The first time I saw it I had morning sickness really bad and I wasn't "that" into it

but..I guess it was more disturbing than scary really. The fact that adults would actually go to those lengths to avoid "the pains of thier past" was disturbing to me.

Lady in the Water
I want to see this! that is all I have to say!

Rosie Gamgee · 07-06-2006, 02:02 PM

Saw a sneak-peek advertisement for the soundtrack.. I love the music in Shyamalan's films. I'm so looking forward to LitW.

04-05-2006, 12:10 AM	#21
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Not my consensus! My consensus is that the mood made it worth the time. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-05-2006, 02:11 PM	#23
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Perhaps, Rev., but there are a few things to take into consideration: A) These people seemed to be, as a whole, relatively well-informed people. It wouldn't have been difficult for them to do a little research on QE to get it right. B) They had apparently been speaking in this way for many years. One would think that, even if it didn't sound quite correct, they would have settled into their own, more natural-sounding dialect of QE by then. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle Last edited by Gwaimir Windgem : 04-05-2006 at 04:20 PM.

04-05-2006, 02:57 PM	#24
Rev. Justin Timberlake Andúril the White Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Your thoughts Posts: 672	Bah. I'd have to watch it again to refresh my memory, and I'm not going to. __________________ Nothing can stop me now cause I just don't care.

04-05-2006, 04:10 PM	#25
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	btw, who are these 'pro actors' you talkin' about, there, Rev.? __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

04-05-2006, 04:20 PM	#26
Rev. Justin Timberlake Andúril the White Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Your thoughts Posts: 672	Professional actors. Skilled actors. __________________ Nothing can stop me now cause I just don't care.

04-05-2006, 04:25 PM	#27
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	Well, Willie Hurt and maybe Brendan Fraiser perhaps aren't the best of actors. I think Joaquin Pheonix is a pretty good one. Brice Dallas Howard did a great job, seeing (get it? 'seeing' ) as she's not blind, and it was her first movie, wasn't it? Sigourney Weaver is a pretty good actress IMO. But at any rate, they're all 'professional actors'. __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

04-06-2006, 01:02 PM	#29
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	Ah!! I get it now. Okay; yes, you're right: their characters weren't good actors at all. You know, I wonder if it is more difficult to act bad acting well, as it were, or to simply act well. ...The things my brain comes up with... __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

07-03-2006, 02:38 PM	#30
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	I have to respect the well-done criticsim of The Rev, as well as form everyone else...definitely some things well pointed-out. The Sixth Sense I "watched" this movie when I was 13 or 14. I was so freaked out I kept my eyes closed nearly the whole time. Did I "get" the plot twist at the end? No! Not until way later. Very awesome movie. Unbreakable This film has been unjustly criticised, IMO. Samuel l Jackson was awesome in it, as was Robin W. Penn. Bruce Willis was a tad off...but still in good mode. The twist here made a big impression on me, since I had not yet watched The Sixth Sense again. Maybe that's why I liked/like it so much. Anyways, it's defnitely the movie of Shayamalan's that I've watched the most. Signs My personal favorite, for all the actors, the great script overall. In the theater the alien really made me jump when it came onscreen onscreen inside of the movie. But when it really appeared? Nah. The Village. I liked it, a lot. But despite the ending which caught me by surprise, I was a bit detached from keeping up with the story. I do plan on seeing Night's next film of course... EDIT: a word about the "acting" in The Village. It did occur to me during the movie that the accents of these people just weren't right. I've lived a lot around Amish and Menonites, and even though those accents are going to be different from what they use to be, I knew that the people of the village should have a certain way of saying things, ya know? __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide Last edited by hectorberlioz : 07-03-2006 at 02:42 PM.

07-04-2006, 08:57 PM	#31
Arien the Maia Fëanáro's Fire Mistress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 1,423	hmmm...let's see.... The Sixth Sense I really did like this movie alot. it was unpredictable for me and basically a thriller. but...liek most thrillers, the second time I saw it, I wasn't as impressed. So that kinda sucked Unbreakable I only saw this once and (unfortunately) I went in with expectations that it would be just like the Sixth Sense which of course it wasn't. I didn't think it was a great movie all in all. Signs OMG....I LOVED THIS! truely! I was scared so much throughout the whole thing! I was even scared the second and third time I watched it on DVD. It totally freaked me out b/c it was something that seemed WAY more plausible than the events that happened in the Ring (which, if I remember correctly, was released shortly after or around the same time.) The Village This was pretty good even the second time around. The first time I saw it I had morning sickness really bad and I wasn't "that" into it but..I guess it was more disturbing than scary really. The fact that adults would actually go to those lengths to avoid "the pains of thier past" was disturbing to me. Lady in the Water I want to see this! that is all I have to say!

07-06-2006, 02:02 PM	#32
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	Saw a sneak-peek advertisement for the soundtrack.. I love the music in Shyamalan's films. I'm so looking forward to LitW. __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

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