The Lore of Living Creatures - Page 2

Agburanar · 12-16-2002, 06:31 AM

I think Zavron's getting a lot from D&D, and other fantasy stuff. It's alright because a lot of that was originally based on Tolkien's work anyway (his books kinda started the D&D and Games Workshop thing) but these games have also used other mythologies and imagination to fill in other mythical creatures. Tolkien kept the number of actual intelligent races in his books to a minimum in order to make Middle Earth seem a concievable place (as much as possible). His books seem clean-cut because they are not cluttered with huge numbers of mythological creatures. But hey, it's up to your own interpretation of Middle Earth whether these creatures exist and are just not mentioned by Tolkien, who, after all, doesn't attempt to go into detail on everything in Middle Earth. The whole of LotR is only set in the North East, who knows what wierd creatures live to the South and the West?

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-16-2002, 11:32 AM

First off, everyone's right; Duergar, Drow, and Gnomes definitely are not part of Middle-Earth.

Second, the plural form of Drow is the same as the singular. Drow.

And lastly, Drow and Duergar come from Forgotten Realms, which actually predates D&D.

Wayfarer · 12-16-2002, 04:00 PM

I really hate it when people just make up crap and expect it to be taken at face value.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 12-21-2002, 11:49 AM

You must of taken forever to think about that.

zavron · 12-23-2002, 06:19 AM

[FLAME DELETED] wayfarer! What is the point in saying things like that!!! What is wrong with You!!!???!!!!

Last edited by Sister Golden Hair

zavron · 12-23-2002, 06:21 AM

Who cares where it came from!! Does it really matter!!!! It's just a bit of fun I thought I'd try doing!!

zavron · 12-23-2002, 06:40 AM

Learn now the lore of Living Creatures!
First name the 4, the free peoples:
Eldest of all, the elf-children;
Dwarf the Delver, dark are his houses;
Ent the earthborn, old as mountains;
Man the mortal, master of horses;
(That is the original)

(Here are the extras)
Half-grown Hobbits, the hole-dwellors;
Drow the dark sight, hidden seekers;
Centaur the star-gazer, half Horseman;
Gnome the Hill Lord, smallest of peoples;
Deurgar Grey-Dwarf, strong are his tunnels;
Gargoyle the ancient, the living statues;
Sprite the faery, gurdian of forests;
Troll the hardy, shunned by people;
Griffon the lost ones, keepers of cloud;
Dragon FireBreather, Lizard Kings;
Orc the evil, maimed for life;
Giant the tall man, the overgrown Human;
Ogre the Ugly, (Not thought of rest)

I am going to add more to them to account for all Races. Some races have been taken out of other books but are similar basis to The Tolkien Books.

zavron · 12-23-2002, 06:42 AM

My list is now patented, and copywrited.

BeardofPants · 12-23-2002, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zavron
What is wrong with You!!!???!!!!

Just the question I want to ask you, really.

Blackboar · 12-24-2002, 05:16 AM

I like it!!

Don't I sound supprised!!!

Agburanar · 12-28-2002, 04:00 PM

I'm just a bit concerned you felt the need to copywrite it.

Radagast The Brown · 12-28-2002, 04:28 PM

Quote:

originayll posted by Zavron
[FLAME DELETED] wayfarer! What is the point in saying things like that!!! What is wrong with You!!!???!!!!

Last edited by Sister Golden Hair

I wonder what SGH deleted.

Quote:

originally posted by BoP
Just the question I want to ask you, really.

Originally posted by zavron
What is wrong with You!!!???!!!!

I think that there s nothing wrong with Wayfarer, he just don't like the Zavron's poem. And he probably thinks "why to waste your time writing this silly peom".
Actually, there is nothing wrong with that.

Ñólendil · 12-28-2002, 06:16 PM

Wayfarer's beef is with the content of the lists, which seems to me to merely pose as Tolkien related material, and also with zavron's surprize with anyone's opposition to it -- but it's not worth arguing over, and I am sorry if I caused trouble.

zavron · 12-29-2002, 05:14 PM

I don't see the point in editing me just saying 'Idiot' when wayfarer said 'Crap'. No more arguments please. I'm just creating this for fun. I mean It's not like I've just ruined tolkiens belief and everything that he worked for in life, is it now. Stand me up in a corner and shoot me, why don't you.

Now I'm going to continue with this wether any of you like it or not! Do you all understand!!

12-16-2002, 06:31 AM	#21
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	I think Zavron's getting a lot from D&D, and other fantasy stuff. It's alright because a lot of that was originally based on Tolkien's work anyway (his books kinda started the D&D and Games Workshop thing) but these games have also used other mythologies and imagination to fill in other mythical creatures. Tolkien kept the number of actual intelligent races in his books to a minimum in order to make Middle Earth seem a concievable place (as much as possible). His books seem clean-cut because they are not cluttered with huge numbers of mythological creatures. But hey, it's up to your own interpretation of Middle Earth whether these creatures exist and are just not mentioned by Tolkien, who, after all, doesn't attempt to go into detail on everything in Middle Earth. The whole of LotR is only set in the North East, who knows what wierd creatures live to the South and the West? __________________ I would wish, were it to any avail, that the LORD OF THE RINGS FILMS had never been wrought. ROLLING STOCK, WE'RE ROLLING STOCK!!

12-16-2002, 11:32 AM	#22
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	First off, everyone's right; Duergar, Drow, and Gnomes definitely are not part of Middle-Earth. Second, the plural form of Drow is the same as the singular. Drow. And lastly, Drow and Duergar come from Forgotten Realms, which actually predates D&D. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

12-16-2002, 04:00 PM	#23
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I really hate it when people just make up crap and expect it to be taken at face value. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

12-23-2002, 06:19 AM	#25
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	[FLAME DELETED] wayfarer! What is the point in saying things like that!!! What is wrong with You!!!???!!!! Last edited by Sister Golden Hair __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12-23-2002, 06:21 AM	#26
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	Who cares where it came from!! Does it really matter!!!! It's just a bit of fun I thought I'd try doing!! __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12-21-2002, 11:49 AM	#24
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	You must of taken forever to think about that.

12-23-2002, 06:40 AM	#27
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	Learn now the lore of Living Creatures! First name the 4, the free peoples: Eldest of all, the elf-children; Dwarf the Delver, dark are his houses; Ent the earthborn, old as mountains; Man the mortal, master of horses; (That is the original) (Here are the extras) Half-grown Hobbits, the hole-dwellors; Drow the dark sight, hidden seekers; Centaur the star-gazer, half Horseman; Gnome the Hill Lord, smallest of peoples; Deurgar Grey-Dwarf, strong are his tunnels; Gargoyle the ancient, the living statues; Sprite the faery, gurdian of forests; Troll the hardy, shunned by people; Griffon the lost ones, keepers of cloud; Dragon FireBreather, Lizard Kings; Orc the evil, maimed for life; Giant the tall man, the overgrown Human; Ogre the Ugly, (Not thought of rest) I am going to add more to them to account for all Races. Some races have been taken out of other books but are similar basis to The Tolkien Books. __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12-23-2002, 06:42 AM	#28
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	My list is now patented, and copywrited. __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12-24-2002, 05:16 AM	#30
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	I like it!! Don't I sound supprised!!!

12-28-2002, 04:00 PM	#31
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	I'm just a bit concerned you felt the need to copywrite it. __________________ I would wish, were it to any avail, that the LORD OF THE RINGS FILMS had never been wrought. ROLLING STOCK, WE'RE ROLLING STOCK!!

12-28-2002, 06:16 PM	#33
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Wayfarer's beef is with the content of the lists, which seems to me to merely pose as Tolkien related material, and also with zavron's surprize with anyone's opposition to it -- but it's not worth arguing over, and I am sorry if I caused trouble. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

12-29-2002, 05:14 PM	#34
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	I don't see the point in editing me just saying 'Idiot' when wayfarer said 'Crap'. No more arguments please. I'm just creating this for fun. I mean It's not like I've just ruined tolkiens belief and everything that he worked for in life, is it now. Stand me up in a corner and shoot me, why don't you. Now I'm going to continue with this wether any of you like it or not! Do you all understand!! __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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