10-11-2003, 03:46 PM | #1 |
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morgoth
how much worse do you think the domination would be if somehow morgoth got a hold of the ring?
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10-11-2003, 05:38 PM | #2 |
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Morgoth and the ring did coexist in time on the Earth. His pyshical being was destroyed, his powe dispersed, and his reamining spirit exiled to the void some hundreds of years before Sauron made the ring., and his earliest peotential for return and very long time after the ring was destoyed.
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10-11-2003, 11:10 PM | #3 |
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thats why i said "somehow"
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10-11-2003, 11:48 PM | #4 |
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Moving to the Middle-earth forum.
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10-11-2003, 11:59 PM | #5 |
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Morgoth was the epitome of evil. He was the devil in Tolkien's works. Ironically, Morgoth already had a ring of his own. He didn't need Sauron's.
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10-12-2003, 01:30 AM | #6 |
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I agree here. A magic ring forged by his student driven by part of that student's life force would be of little use to a teacher of Morgoth's great strength/persuasion.
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10-13-2003, 05:10 AM | #7 |
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*cough*
Considering that the ring drew its power /from/ the energies that morgoth had invested in middle earth, there's not a lot of good it would have done him, except allow him to regain some of his strength.
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10-13-2003, 05:12 AM | #8 |
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Somme? Some boy-genius you are. ::faptard::
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10-13-2003, 05:29 AM | #9 |
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It's 5 AM. Cut me some slack.
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10-14-2003, 11:41 PM | #11 |
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ok, new question, what destruction could one do if they had every ring of power on their hands?
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10-15-2003, 07:30 AM | #13 |
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yes i must say maybe someone here could clear it up... how come nothing was done to help any of the Dwarven Lords or Kings of Men, on Celebrimbors behalf once he knew he had been decieved by Sauron? or was something done?...
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10-20-2003, 01:41 PM | #15 | |
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Originally posted by Sister Goldenhair
"I believe at that point, by the time Celebrimbor realized what Annatar was doing, it was too late. The seven and the nine had already been captured. The best Celebrimbor could do was hide the three. It was then, that the Elves of Eregion went to war in the War of the Elves and Sauron, and Celebrimbor was slain." ________________________________________________ Actually, [if I follow the sequence of events correctly], Celebrimbor was really mainly concerned only for the Three. and the seven and the nine were captured AFTER he broke with Annatar, not before. Quote:
Houghton Mifflin Co., Boston, 1980. So he wasn't especially worried about the fate of the Nine and the Seven?
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10-20-2003, 01:51 PM | #16 |
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the three were the only ones that Sauron didnt have a hand in making, which probably had something to do with the special care given to them. They were unmarred, so to speak
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10-20-2003, 04:36 PM | #17 |
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Originally posted by Beor:
"the three were the only ones that Sauron didnt have a hand in making, which probably had something to do with the special care given to them. They were unmarred, so to speak" _________________________________________________ I'm sure that's how he saw it but foreknowledge failed him about the threat the Nazgul would pose in the future (imagine how much less the danger to Frodo from Hobbiton to Rivendell if instead of the Nazgul Sauron had sent, say, Rosenkrantz and Gildenstern (Shagrat and Gorbag) to try to get the ring.
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