07-22-2003, 01:17 AM | #1 | |||||
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Who is Rúmil?
Who is Rúmil?
Rúmil is a ñoldorian sage of Tirion, 'who first achieved fitting signs for the recording of speech and song' (The Silmarillion). We have as far as I know, no date of his birth, nor a description of his appearance. There is no reference of him being an elf who woke up in Cuiviénen or was born in Aman after the journey there. What we know is that at first, in The Book of Lost Tales, at the beginning of the legendarium, Rúmil was a philologist and was at one time a thrall of Melkor. From The Book of Lost Tales I: The Music of the Ainur Quote:
Alphabet of Rúmil From The Book of Lost Tales II: The Tale of Turambar Quote:
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From The Lost Road and Other Writtings: The Lhammas Quote:
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
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07-22-2003, 01:19 AM | #2 | ||||
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Now let’s take a closer look on the Annals:
From The Shaping of Middle-earth: The Earliest Annals of Valinor Quote:
From Morgoth’s Ring: Annals of Aman Quote:
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There are other traditions which are not written down such as this: From The War of the Jewels: Quendi and Eldar Quote:
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
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07-22-2003, 01:22 AM | #3 | |
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So, who is Rúmil then?
From The Peoples of Middle-Earth: The Shibboleth of Fëanor Quote:
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
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02-22-2005, 08:44 PM | #4 |
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Well, Rumil in the Lost Tales has a different character than in the Silm....heh heh, he doesn't even appear in person in the Silm. In the Lost Tales, however, he's a sage of all earthly languages...
Rumil to Eriol: "...Know you that the Nodoli [Noldor] grow astounding slow, and yet have I grey hairs in the study of all the tongues of the valr and of Eldar. Long ere the fall of Gondolin, good sir, I lightened my thralldom under Melko [Melkor, Morgoth] in learning the speech of all monsters and goblins - have I not conned even the speeches of beasts, disdaining not the thin voices of the voles and mice? - have I not cadged a stupid tune or two to him of the speechless beetles?..." And it continues on about other languages. Obviously, Tolkien changed many things in his mythologies, but at the least, this shows us the beginnings of Rumil, and gives insite into how Tolkien may have come to see him. |
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