Aragorn Sceamed Elendil?

SamwiseGamgeeOTS · 03-30-2003, 01:07 AM

I searched for this and didn't see a thread about it. I was watchin FOTR again (for the umteenth millionth time), and noticed something weird. Toward the end of the movie, I thought that I heard Aragorn scream the name of Elendil when he jumped off of that little parapet thing (not remembering name right now.) It's right after he tells Frodo to 'Run!' and the Uruk's come. Can someone help me, or am I just hearing weird things? Maybe he screamed another name........Mooter! RALLY UP AND HELP ME! soo confuzed.

olsonm · 03-30-2003, 01:27 AM

Yes, he cried Elendil.

Lalaith · 03-30-2003, 07:39 AM

Why should he not scream Elendil?

Elf Girl · 03-30-2003, 09:30 AM

It is customary in ME to cry the name of what you fight for, your homeland, etc. when you do a brave act. (i.e. Frodo cries "The Shire!" when he stabs the cave troll in the books.)

Lizra · 03-30-2003, 09:36 AM

That was his battle cry. In Moria, Boromir cries (screams sounds like something you do at a horror movie!

) GONDOR!, Aragorn shouts ELENDIL! I can't remember if the various hobbits have a battle cry when the need arises.

Lady of Rohan · 03-30-2003, 10:49 AM

Like Elf Girl said, the hobbits do have a battle cry in the book, but in the movie, I think that they just scream,"AHHH!!"(at least thats what they did in Moria).

Lefty Scaevola · 03-30-2003, 01:52 PM

SPOON!!!

not in the face, not in the face

Sween · 03-30-2003, 02:47 PM

Aragorn also crys Aundril for the dundain then emeor cries 'random sword name' for the mark.

SamwiseGamgeeOTS · 03-30-2003, 02:54 PM

well, at least this means that I'm not just hearing things. I'm surprised that PJ would put that in the movie....confuzing all those who haven't read the books. But, I personally think that PJ should have just said, "screw it" and made the movies thinking nothing for those who have not read the books.......but that just how I view it.........back on subject. Aragorn and Elendil. Don't you think he could have screamed like....Arwen or something else?

***azalea*** · 03-30-2003, 03:17 PM

I could say something randy and inappropriate, but I won't.

As people said earlier, the point of yelling something is that you yell the name of your homeland or "house," the things you represent as a warrior. It wouldn't make sense for him to yell Arwen (although it might make sense to us), because that's not where he's fighting out of or who he represents. Now, Haldir for instance, would yell Lorien, but I don't think elves did that (or did they?) I don't know.

Lalaith · 03-31-2003, 07:23 AM

Quote:

(screams sounds like something you do at a horror movie! )

Ups, sorry.

Dúnedain · 03-31-2003, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SamwiseGamgeeOTS
I thought that I heard Aragorn scream the name of Elendil when he jumped off of that little parapet thing (not remembering name right now.)

Amon Hen, wasn't it?

SamwiseGamgeeOTS · 03-31-2003, 10:18 PM

now. see. that's what i thought, but I didn't want to say that and be wrong and sound really really stupid.

Elessar the Elfstone · 04-04-2003, 03:21 PM

Aragorn is heir to elendil so he probably shouts it to scare the orcs or somthin' I may be wrong though

***azalea*** · 04-04-2003, 04:25 PM

I don't think the orcs knew who Elendil was (although I could be wrong), but I think it's more for the fighter's own benefit, as a rally cry for himself, as a way of reminding himself what he is fighting for and/ or why. Or it is as a way of letting the others who are fighting around him know who he "is."
OR if it is for the enemy's benefit (in this case, orcs), it is so they remember if they survive who it is who whupped 'em.

(or that their last dying thought is the house/ homeland of the fighter who killed them, or if they survive they can tell the others back home about the fierce fighter of ___, and the next time one encounters him, they will then be scared.)

***IronParrot*** · 04-04-2003, 06:29 PM

It's... from... the... book

Bombadillo · 04-07-2003, 01:49 PM

I didn't notice that in the movie, but I wouldn't be surprised. And I guess it is costomary to yell out what you're fighting for in ME, like how Sam yells "FRODO!" all the time. That's pretty cool.

Lizra · 04-07-2003, 03:23 PM

After much thought, I believe I would yell "Mommy"!

Falagar · 04-07-2003, 04:35 PM

Anybody here trains any sort of martial arts? Usually, when you kick something (or someone

) you scream, both to get out aggresion (sp?) and to scare your enemies.

Wayfarer · 04-07-2003, 11:54 PM

It's more than that. There's a physiological reason- to expel air from your lungs.

03-30-2003, 01:07 AM	#1
SamwiseGamgeeOTS Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A quaint little hole which last time I checked was somewhere near Ohio, Middle-Earth. Posts: 165	Aragorn Sceamed Elendil? I searched for this and didn't see a thread about it. I was watchin FOTR again (for the umteenth millionth time), and noticed something weird. Toward the end of the movie, I thought that I heard Aragorn scream the name of Elendil when he jumped off of that little parapet thing (not remembering name right now.) It's right after he tells Frodo to 'Run!' and the Uruk's come. Can someone help me, or am I just hearing weird things? Maybe he screamed another name........Mooter! RALLY UP AND HELP ME! soo confuzed. __________________ "...Eragon recoiled in shock. Standing in front of him, licking off the membrane that encased it, was a dragon."

03-30-2003, 01:27 AM	#2
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Yes, he cried Elendil. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

03-30-2003, 07:39 AM	#3
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Why should he not scream Elendil? __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-30-2003, 09:30 AM	#4
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	It is customary in ME to cry the name of what you fight for, your homeland, etc. when you do a brave act. (i.e. Frodo cries "The Shire!" when he stabs the cave troll in the books.) __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

03-30-2003, 09:36 AM	#5
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	That was his battle cry. In Moria, Boromir cries (screams sounds like something you do at a horror movie! ) GONDOR!, Aragorn shouts ELENDIL! I can't remember if the various hobbits have a battle cry when the need arises. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats! Last edited by Lizra : 03-30-2003 at 09:37 AM.

03-30-2003, 10:49 AM	#6
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	Like Elf Girl said, the hobbits do have a battle cry in the book, but in the movie, I think that they just scream,"AHHH!!"(at least thats what they did in Moria).

03-30-2003, 01:52 PM	#7
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	SPOON!!! not in the face, not in the face __________________ Gaius Mucius Scaevola Older, richer, and wiser than you "Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melkor, but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Iluvatar, those things that ye have sung, I will show them forth, ... And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me," Last edited by Lefty Scaevola : 03-30-2003 at 01:54 PM.

03-30-2003, 02:47 PM	#8
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Aragorn also crys Aundril for the dundain then emeor cries 'random sword name' for the mark. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

03-30-2003, 02:54 PM	#9
SamwiseGamgeeOTS Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A quaint little hole which last time I checked was somewhere near Ohio, Middle-Earth. Posts: 165	well, at least this means that I'm not just hearing things. I'm surprised that PJ would put that in the movie....confuzing all those who haven't read the books. But, I personally think that PJ should have just said, "screw it" and made the movies thinking nothing for those who have not read the books.......but that just how I view it.........back on subject. Aragorn and Elendil. Don't you think he could have screamed like....Arwen or something else? __________________ "...Eragon recoiled in shock. Standing in front of him, licking off the membrane that encased it, was a dragon."

03-30-2003, 03:17 PM	#10
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I could say something randy and inappropriate, but I won't. As people said earlier, the point of yelling something is that you yell the name of your homeland or "house," the things you represent as a warrior. It wouldn't make sense for him to yell Arwen (although it might make sense to us), because that's not where he's fighting out of or who he represents. Now, Haldir for instance, would yell Lorien, but I don't think elves did that (or did they?) I don't know.

03-31-2003, 10:18 PM	#13
SamwiseGamgeeOTS Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A quaint little hole which last time I checked was somewhere near Ohio, Middle-Earth. Posts: 165	now. see. that's what i thought, but I didn't want to say that and be wrong and sound really really stupid. __________________ "...Eragon recoiled in shock. Standing in front of him, licking off the membrane that encased it, was a dragon."

04-04-2003, 03:21 PM	#14
Elessar the Elfstone Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Usually located Bree Inn of the prancing pony Posts: 59	Aragorn is heir to elendil so he probably shouts it to scare the orcs or somthin' I may be wrong though

04-04-2003, 04:25 PM	#15
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I don't think the orcs knew who Elendil was (although I could be wrong), but I think it's more for the fighter's own benefit, as a rally cry for himself, as a way of reminding himself what he is fighting for and/ or why. Or it is as a way of letting the others who are fighting around him know who he "is." OR if it is for the enemy's benefit (in this case, orcs), it is so they remember if they survive who it is who whupped 'em. (or that their last dying thought is the house/ homeland of the fighter who killed them, or if they survive they can tell the others back home about the fierce fighter of ___, and the next time one encounters him, they will then be scared.)

04-04-2003, 06:29 PM	#16
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	It's... from... the... book __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

04-07-2003, 01:49 PM	#17
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	I didn't notice that in the movie, but I wouldn't be surprised. And I guess it is costomary to yell out what you're fighting for in ME, like how Sam yells "FRODO!" all the time. That's pretty cool. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

04-07-2003, 03:23 PM	#18
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	After much thought, I believe I would yell "Mommy"! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

04-07-2003, 04:35 PM	#19
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Anybody here trains any sort of martial arts? Usually, when you kick something (or someone ) you scream, both to get out aggresion (sp?) and to scare your enemies. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

04-07-2003, 11:54 PM	#20
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	It's more than that. There's a physiological reason- to expel air from your lungs. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

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