Could Harry be Gryffindor's heir?

durin's bane · 03-11-2003, 07:16 PM

Many readers have been asking this! Post what you think and give your reason why!
Well, I think he is. Remember, when he got his wand, the sparks that came out of it were red and gold: Gryffindor's official colours. And his sign is Leo, and the symbol for that is a lion, the same animal for Gryffindor. He was able to pull Godric's sword out of the Sorting Hat, and only a true Gryffindor could have done it, like Dumbledor says. And, did you notice, that Harry used to live in GODRIC'S Hollow---the name Godric is the first name of the founder of Gryffindor House.

Adrian Baggins · 03-11-2003, 09:01 PM

I know this may sound odd, but I think that it is either Harry OR Hermionie, I mean, a witch with her skills had to have a very talented ancestor, so maybe... Harry could be the heir in lots of ways, I mean, Slytherin HATES Gryffindor, Voldimort hates Harry, Voldimort=heir of Slytherin house, need I say more?

Fili · 03-11-2003, 09:40 PM

i agree

gimli7410 · 03-12-2003, 12:04 AM

yea but the sorting hat always said he could be great in slytherin u never kno if he went there he probably could have done better then in gryffindor

Lanelf · 03-12-2003, 01:35 AM

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I know this may sound odd, but I think that it is either Harry OR Hermionie, I mean, a witch with her skills had to have a very talented ancestor, so maybe...

But Hermione's Muggle-born. I don't know if it counts when they had a witch/wizard for a grandfather or something, but I'm sure she wouldn't be called a muggle-born if she did have a magic ancestor.
I don't know why, but I think it'd be kind of boring if Harry did turn out to be Gryffindor's heir. It just seems predictable to me.
Maybe he should be the Heir of Hufflepuff instead.

Lanelf.

gimli7410 · 03-12-2003, 07:46 PM

harry could also speak parseltoungue

FrodoFriend · 03-13-2003, 08:33 AM

I think it's highly possible, and it could also explain why Voldemort was so intent on killing him in the first place. Maybe there's some prophecy about the Heir of Gryffindor defeating the dark lord... Heh heh, I like prophecies...

Estel13 · 03-13-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by durin's bane
Many readers have been asking this! Post what you think and give your reason why!
Well, I think he is. Remember, when he got his wand, the sparks that came out of it were red and gold: Gryffindor's official colours. And his sign is Leo, and the symbol for that is a lion, the same animal for Gryffindor. He was able to pull Godric's sword out of the Sorting Hat, and only a true Gryffindor could have done it, like Dumbledor says. And, did you notice, that Harry used to live in GODRIC'S Hollow---the name Godric is the first name of the founder of Gryffindor House.

I totally agree with you. I never even THOUGHT of the Godric's Hollow thing, stupid me who thought she knew everything about Harry Potter.

Hanza · 03-13-2003, 01:50 PM

durins bane firstly i think youre avatar is the cutest ever even though tom felton is better!
secondly i think you are probably right there are a lot of things pinting to it.It just seems too predictable . Rowling will probably make it twist at the last minute.

durin's bane · 03-13-2003, 06:36 PM

Thank-you!

And, gimli7410, while you are right, the reason Harry speaks Parsletongue is that when Voldemort disappeared after he tried to kill Harry, some of his magic rubbed off on him. This is probably the reason the Sorting Hat said Harry would make a good Slytherin, also paired with the fact that Harry's father James could've been in Slytherin House.

gimli7410 · 03-13-2003, 06:54 PM

oh yea. well i havent read the books in a while

durin's bane · 03-13-2003, 07:02 PM

I haven't either. I'm just starting Philosopher's Stone again, but I haven't read much of it because of school and stuff.

Adrian Baggins · 03-14-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Lanelf
But Hermione's Muggle-born. I don't know if it counts when they had a witch/wizard for a grandfather or something, but I'm sure she wouldn't be called a muggle-born if she did have a magic ancestor.
I don't know why, but I think it'd be kind of boring if Harry did turn out to be Gryffindor's heir. It just seems predictable to me.
Maybe he should be the Heir of Hufflepuff instead.
Lanelf.

Hermionie is a MUDBLOOD (excuse me but I am not making fun of her, she rox, I'm just making a point, I mean this in a non-mean way), therefore, she has muggle parents, but she has magic in her blood somewhere that was, in the words of MAlfoy. made dirty by a muggle. That does not mean she has no magic ancestory. Harry's mom, was in fact, a MB(still not being mean).
I rest my Hermionie case, although, the chances of it being her are slim.

Harry, if you will remember correctly, was a TRUE GRYFFENDOR! he pulled out GODRIC'S SWORD!! He is the most likely person now that I think about it.

Estel13 · 03-15-2003, 07:39 PM

I am in complete agreement with ya, Adrian! Did you people know that Book 5 is 800+ pages long?
Must...Get...New...Book...If...It...Kills...Me...

Daughter of Elros · 03-16-2003, 11:44 AM

On Harrypotter.com, a bunch of us came up with a way for him to have been both the heir of slytherin and the heir of Gryffndor. IT was very complicated though, involved a bunch of diagraming, and I no longer remember how we arrived at out conclusion- was something about Lily's character being very vague.

-DoE

Lanelf · 03-17-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Adrian Baggins
Hermionie is a MUDBLOOD (excuse me but I am not making fun of her, she rox, I'm just making a point, I mean this in a non-mean way), therefore, she has muggle parents, but she has magic in her blood somewhere that was, in the words of MAlfoy. made dirty by a muggle. That does not mean she has no magic ancestory.

Oh, I always thought that a mudblood (not being mean either!) was just a muggle-born person with no magic ancestory but could do magic. *shrug* Guess I'll go reread again... after this series of books...
Lanelf.

***IronParrot*** · 03-20-2003, 06:34 PM

Yes, I think Harry is an heir of Gryffindor, but only partly and indirectly so.

In terms of his status as the hero of the story, it's important for him to have some sort of stature - and there are already many clues that establish this relationship to Godric Gryffindor to be the case, as you've all pointed out.

However, one of the major themes of the Harry Potter series is that who you are is not determined by birthright, but rather by the choices you make as an individual. I think we have to balance the two concepts here.

What I'm saying is, yes, Harry is probably a descendent of Gryffindor - but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't matter. In Rowling's universe, she makes it very clear that birthright never matters.

sun-star · 03-21-2003, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by IronParrot
However, one of the major themes of the Harry Potter series is that who you are is not determined by birthright, but rather by the choices you make as an individual. I think we have to balance the two concepts here.

What I'm saying is, yes, Harry is probably a descendent of Gryffindor - but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't matter. In Rowling's universe, she makes it very clear that birthright never matters.

I agree with you that this is a central theme to the book. I can't remember the exact quote, but Dumbledore says something like "It is our choices which make us who we are, Harry". That's why I think it is unlikely that Hermione will turn out to have magical ancestory, because the three friends (one Muggle-born, one from an old wizarding family and one who had wizard parents but has lived with Muggles) represent three different kinds of people in the wizarding world. And it is their choice to join the side against Voldemort, not their blood, which determines who they are.

Estel13 · 03-21-2003, 03:49 PM

Not to be rude or anything, but Lily Potter was a Mudblood, so Harry isn't quite a pure-blood wizard. What I always thought was funny was that Molly Weasley has a second cousin who's an accountant, of all things!

Hanza · 03-22-2003, 06:56 AM

My friend got me the 5th book for my b'day but now i have to wait ages til i get it

03-11-2003, 07:16 PM	#1
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	Could Harry be Gryffindor's heir? Many readers have been asking this! Post what you think and give your reason why! Well, I think he is. Remember, when he got his wand, the sparks that came out of it were red and gold: Gryffindor's official colours. And his sign is Leo, and the symbol for that is a lion, the same animal for Gryffindor. He was able to pull Godric's sword out of the Sorting Hat, and only a true Gryffindor could have done it, like Dumbledor says. And, did you notice, that Harry used to live in GODRIC'S Hollow---the name Godric is the first name of the founder of Gryffindor House. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

03-11-2003, 09:01 PM	#2
Adrian Baggins Frodo's lil sis HP LotR fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: in a tree reading Harry P. and LotR Posts: 585	I know this may sound odd, but I think that it is either Harry OR Hermionie, I mean, a witch with her skills had to have a very talented ancestor, so maybe... Harry could be the heir in lots of ways, I mean, Slytherin HATES Gryffindor, Voldimort hates Harry, Voldimort=heir of Slytherin house, need I say more? __________________ AB Adrian Baggins wizard, elf, mortal, hobbit Owner of the 3 unknown rings I LIKE HIEI!! LOOK AT MY AVITAR IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS!! H. Hysterically cold I. Insanely unhuman E. Effortlessly mocking I. Irresistabely hott "You're a team player, a save-the-day superhero pause I hate people like you." ~Hiei

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03-12-2003, 12:04 AM	#4
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	yea but the sorting hat always said he could be great in slytherin u never kno if he went there he probably could have done better then in gryffindor __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

03-12-2003, 07:46 PM	#6
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	harry could also speak parseltoungue __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

03-13-2003, 08:33 AM	#7
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	I think it's highly possible, and it could also explain why Voldemort was so intent on killing him in the first place. Maybe there's some prophecy about the Heir of Gryffindor defeating the dark lord... Heh heh, I like prophecies... __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-13-2003, 01:50 PM	#9
Hanza Woolly Jumper Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In my field of paper flowers and candy clouds of lullaby Posts: 1,200	durins bane firstly i think youre avatar is the cutest ever even though tom felton is better! secondly i think you are probably right there are a lot of things pinting to it.It just seems too predictable . Rowling will probably make it twist at the last minute. __________________ :: there's nothing comforting in change:: Why dont sheep shrink in the rain??

03-13-2003, 06:36 PM	#10
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	Thank-you! And, gimli7410, while you are right, the reason Harry speaks Parsletongue is that when Voldemort disappeared after he tried to kill Harry, some of his magic rubbed off on him. This is probably the reason the Sorting Hat said Harry would make a good Slytherin, also paired with the fact that Harry's father James could've been in Slytherin House. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

03-13-2003, 06:54 PM	#11
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	oh yea. well i havent read the books in a while __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

03-13-2003, 07:02 PM	#12
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	I haven't either. I'm just starting Philosopher's Stone again, but I haven't read much of it because of school and stuff. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

03-15-2003, 07:39 PM	#14
Estel13 RPG-aholic Psycho Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Final Fantasy Posts: 733	I am in complete agreement with ya, Adrian! Did you people know that Book 5 is 800+ pages long? Must...Get...New...Book...If...It...Kills...Me... __________________

03-16-2003, 11:44 AM	#15
Daughter of Elros Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 69	On Harrypotter.com, a bunch of us came up with a way for him to have been both the heir of slytherin and the heir of Gryffndor. IT was very complicated though, involved a bunch of diagraming, and I no longer remember how we arrived at out conclusion- was something about Lily's character being very vague. -DoE

03-20-2003, 06:34 PM	#17
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	Yes, I think Harry is an heir of Gryffindor, but only partly and indirectly so. In terms of his status as the hero of the story, it's important for him to have some sort of stature - and there are already many clues that establish this relationship to Godric Gryffindor to be the case, as you've all pointed out. However, one of the major themes of the Harry Potter series is that who you are is not determined by birthright, but rather by the choices you make as an individual. I think we have to balance the two concepts here. What I'm saying is, yes, Harry is probably a descendent of Gryffindor - but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't matter. In Rowling's universe, she makes it very clear that birthright never matters. __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

03-21-2003, 03:49 PM	#19
Estel13 RPG-aholic Psycho Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Final Fantasy Posts: 733	Not to be rude or anything, but Lily Potter was a Mudblood, so Harry isn't quite a pure-blood wizard. What I always thought was funny was that Molly Weasley has a second cousin who's an accountant, of all things! __________________

03-22-2003, 06:56 AM	#20
Hanza Woolly Jumper Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In my field of paper flowers and candy clouds of lullaby Posts: 1,200	My friend got me the 5th book for my b'day but now i have to wait ages til i get it __________________ :: there's nothing comforting in change:: Why dont sheep shrink in the rain??

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