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Old 02-17-2003, 09:38 AM   #1
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Most impressive female character

Which woman, elf, darf ( we don't actually know one), Valie, Maia or maybe hobbit is the most impressive female character in Arda?

Is it just a beautiful woman, or a fighter? Strong or lovely?

It's a hard choice but whom do you admire the most?
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Is this limited to the Third Age and LotR?

If not, then I will go ahead and move it to the Middle-earth forum.
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Oh, sorry, it is for the whole world created by Tolkien. So it should be in the Middle-earth section. Sorry. Please move it.
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Moving to the Middle-earth forum.
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"North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes."

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Re: Most impressive female character

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Which woman, elf, darf ( we don't actually know one), Valie, Maia or maybe hobbit is the most impressive female character in Arda?

Is it just a beautiful woman, or a fighter? Strong or lovely?

It's a hard choice but whom do you admire the most?
Actually we do know of one dwarf woman, the only one mentioned in fact by Tolkien:

D*s:

The daughter of Thráin II, and sister of Thorin II Oakenshield. The mother of F*li and K*li, she is the only dwarf-woman named by Tolkien
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Luthien. Do I need to say anything else?
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Luthien. Do I need to say anything else?
I thought about her too when I saw the thread.
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Galadriel and Luthien are the most impressive.

Luthien single-handedly rescues Beren and casts a spell on Morgoth.

Galadriel is more of a behind-the-scenes elf. She's also awesome in more than one age, and extremely wise and insightful.

Galadriel is my favourite female character, but Luthien is equally kick-ass.

We also can't forget Eowyn, who slew the With-king. Maybe not quite as impressive, but pretty darn good for a human.
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Old 02-17-2003, 03:42 PM   #10
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Let's see....I would have to say Yavanna and Arien of course!
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Luthein, Galadriel, Eowyn....why people accuse Tolkien of being sexist I don't know.

For me it has to be Lutien. Her deeds were simply amazing and she showed no fear in front of Morgoth and she defeated Sauron albeit with the help of Huan, AND she made Namo sad! What a woman.
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I was gonna mention Dis, but I see Dunedain beat me to her. Oh well...

Anyway, most impressive. I definitely agree with BoP. Luthien is the most impressive. Though of course the Valier and impressive, and Arien, and Galadriel, any Elf-lady/Elf-maiden is impressive (they ARE Elves, after all!). And also, Eowyn is, of course, quite impressive for one of 'Mannish' descent, esp. considering she isn't a Dunadan!
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eowyn cuz shes pretty and brave and just so darn cool
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Luthein, Galadriel, Eowyn....why people accuse Tolkien of being sexist I don't know.
People do this? Who and where are they!

Those were my big three too Inderjit! I still think Galadriel rocks all though.
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Galadriel. Because she's not only able to so kick the arse of any body, she knows that she doesn't have to. She's extremely intelligent and controled.

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Actually we do know of one dwarf woman, the only one mentioned in fact by Tolkien:

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The daughter of Thráin II, and sister of Thorin II Oakenshield. The mother of F*li and K*li, she is the only dwarf-woman named by Tolkien
Yeah, when I wrote dwarf I thought of her, but we don't actually know her. We only know her name and her sons, that's not enough to say she's an impressive female character.
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People do this? Who and where are they!

People who accuses Tolkien of being racist, a Satanist, I even heard once that he was a paedophile. Idiots.

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Is it even a contest? Luthien exculding of course the valar because they are too good
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I agree, Luthien.
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I hate to be a sheep here but I'd go for Luthien Tinuviel too. She showed some very strong determination. There are but very little who would even have dared to face Morgoth and she didn't only do that but she even managed to trick him and delivered a hefty blow to his image of invincible dark lord.

Plus her song managed to move Mandos to pity. A feat that was never accomplished ever after that again. If that isn't impressive I don't know what is.
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