Glad to be born in a "[I]western[/I] " country

afro-elf · 01-30-2003, 01:13 AM

After my travels I am glad/lucky to be born in a WESTERN country

Wayfarer · 01-30-2003, 01:14 AM

Amen, brutha.

jerseydevil · 01-30-2003, 01:20 AM

I've a;ways been very glad to have been born in the west, the US in particular and the type of family I was born into.

I couldn't picture having to grow up in North Korea, China, Colombia, the middle east or africa, etc. Can't imagine what some of those people must go through everyday of their lives.

Huan · 01-30-2003, 02:08 AM

But there's always an "on the other hand." If you're an American born in the inner city areas of the bigger cities, or the trailer-park outskirts of smaller towns, life would be little different if you were from the "third world."

Wayfarer · 01-30-2003, 02:10 AM

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If you're an American born in the inner city areas of the bigger cities...life would be little different if you were from the "third world

Correct me if I'm wrong, Afro-Elf, but didn't you grow up in a project your parents were managing/working at?

Rána Eressëa · 01-30-2003, 02:29 AM

I would've liked to been born in England to see what it was like. It's not a "western" country, I believe. Or am I somehow wrong?

afro-elf · 01-30-2003, 02:37 AM

Almost, perfect. We lived in the projects. Mom and grandma had degrees in social work so we basically lived with the people they were helping out.

I say this "PO" in American aint like PO in other places. In the ghetto people have TV's, VCR's, DVD players, stereoes, cars,
cable, RUNNING WATER, HEAT, ACCESS TO EDUCATION, CLOTHES, FOOD, ETC...

people in the should be happy as hell they weren't born in Africa as it is today.

Sorry Huan, but I grew up in the ghetto and I have been to some 3rd countries. Poor people in American live quite well.

Yes there are destitute people in America but that is a SMALL minority.

My girlfriend is from Thailand. I just came back from her village where her family stays. THAT is poor. They cook with wood and charcoal. No stove. Outhouse bathroom and shower. The corner "store" for lack of a word is were the villiage phone is.
They( the store) keep their "cold" goods in a in an ancient fridge.
The kids in her familiy had NEVER been to a cinema, NEVER been to a mall had NEVER gone to Pizzia hut.
The people there sleep on the floor. I mean REAL floor as in the concrete foundation. Hell that's pretty good because many in the villiage have wooden shacks.

I need to disenage

afro-elf · 01-30-2003, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rána Eressëa
I would've liked to been born in England to see what it was like. It's not a "western" country, I believe. Or am I somehow wrong?

it is a western country. Basically I am referring to the UK, USA,NZ, Canada, Australia, and by extention northern Europe.

the Occidental cultural IDEALS

Rána Eressëa · 01-30-2003, 02:48 AM

Ah, okay. What about Japan?

Wayfarer · 01-30-2003, 02:53 AM

Westerized.

afro-elf · 01-30-2003, 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by Rána Eressëa
Ah, okay. What about Japan?

HELL NO!!!!!!!!

After being here for the last several months the WEST is the BEST.

Rána Eressëa · 01-30-2003, 02:57 AM

Alright, then I agree. Western is better.

Huan · 01-30-2003, 03:07 AM

All right, I stand corrected.

afro-elf · 01-30-2003, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huan
All right, I stand corrected.

I hope I did not come off in a condesending manner. IF you took it that way it was not my intention.

Just some emotional pangs in me.

Wayfarer · 01-30-2003, 03:33 AM

Yeah... pangs. ]: )

Coney · 01-30-2003, 07:48 AM

Damn right I'm glad to be born in the west

If, for example, I lost everything and couldn't work then in the UK I'd:

Have housing given to me and the rent/mortgage and water bills paid for.

Be given enough money to live on.

Receive free healthcare/optician/dentist inc. perscription costs.

Receive free education (I already have my University fees paid for, managed to wrangle that one

)

If I had a family then I would receive money on a weekly basis...I think it is something like £20/child.......my kids would also receive free lunches at school.

When I could return to work I would have all clothing and travel costs paid for me to attend interviews etc.

When I am 65 I will receive a state pension and £400 a year towards heating costs....oh and a pass for public transport.

If I were disabled then the government pays to have my house renovated (stairlifts, accessways etc) and I would receive a car (fully paid for) even if I couldn't drive then my next of kin get the car, so long as I have complete access to it

I worry about a few things in life.....but at least in the UK Starving, hypothermia and lack of health care are not some of them

.

Hell, it doesn't even cost me a penny to have my pets seen to by the vet

Sween · 01-30-2003, 07:53 AM

i allways wished i had been born in olden times cos basically killing stuff and having lots of women suits me to a tee aprentally i should of been a Caveman.

But i am glad i was born in england cos we have foootball and pubs of great worth

Draken · 01-30-2003, 08:53 AM

What's wrong with Japan AE, always seems (from afar) an interesting place to me?

My two main criteria:

1) Brews good beer:
UK, Belgium, Germany, Czech Republic

2) Plays rugby league to Test level
UK, New Zealand, France, Australia, Papua New Guinea

Combining the two means I'll stick with the UK for now. Mind you, watching Carcasonne play at home with a bottle of red wine is tempting, so France is coming up on the rails!

But seriously, I suppose that (barring things being truly terrible) there's a natural tendency to think that this time and this place are best, isn't there? We'd all be miserable as sin if we didn't.

FrodoFriend · 01-30-2003, 09:33 AM

It's because the Western countries are closer to the Undying Lands . . .

BeardofPants · 01-30-2003, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sween
i allways wished i had been born in olden times cos basically killing stuff and having lots of women suits me to a tee aprentally i should of been a Caveman.

You would have been pretty disappointed then; evidence points to an early adaption to monogamy. Being nomadic and all.

01-30-2003, 01:13 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Glad to be born in a "[I]western[/I] " country After my travels I am glad/lucky to be born in a WESTERN country __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-30-2003, 01:14 AM	#2
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Amen, brutha. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-30-2003, 01:20 AM	#3
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	I've a;ways been very glad to have been born in the west, the US in particular and the type of family I was born into. I couldn't picture having to grow up in North Korea, China, Colombia, the middle east or africa, etc. Can't imagine what some of those people must go through everyday of their lives. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

01-30-2003, 02:29 AM	#6
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I would've liked to been born in England to see what it was like. It's not a "western" country, I believe. Or am I somehow wrong? Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 01-30-2003 at 02:32 AM.

01-30-2003, 02:37 AM	#7
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Almost, perfect. We lived in the projects. Mom and grandma had degrees in social work so we basically lived with the people they were helping out. I say this "PO" in American aint like PO in other places. In the ghetto people have TV's, VCR's, DVD players, stereoes, cars, cable, RUNNING WATER, HEAT, ACCESS TO EDUCATION, CLOTHES, FOOD, ETC... people in the should be happy as hell they weren't born in Africa as it is today. Sorry Huan, but I grew up in the ghetto and I have been to some 3rd countries. Poor people in American live quite well. Yes there are destitute people in America but that is a SMALL minority. My girlfriend is from Thailand. I just came back from her village where her family stays. THAT is poor. They cook with wood and charcoal. No stove. Outhouse bathroom and shower. The corner "store" for lack of a word is were the villiage phone is. They( the store) keep their "cold" goods in a in an ancient fridge. The kids in her familiy had NEVER been to a cinema, NEVER been to a mall had NEVER gone to Pizzia hut. The people there sleep on the floor. I mean REAL floor as in the concrete foundation. Hell that's pretty good because many in the villiage have wooden shacks. I need to disenage __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 01-30-2003 at 02:45 AM.

01-30-2003, 02:08 AM	#4
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	But there's always an "on the other hand." If you're an American born in the inner city areas of the bigger cities, or the trailer-park outskirts of smaller towns, life would be little different if you were from the "third world."

01-30-2003, 02:48 AM	#9
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Ah, okay. What about Japan?

01-30-2003, 02:53 AM	#10
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Westerized. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-30-2003, 02:57 AM	#12
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Alright, then I agree. Western is better.

01-30-2003, 03:07 AM	#13
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	All right, I stand corrected.

01-30-2003, 03:33 AM	#15
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Yeah... pangs. ]: ) __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-30-2003, 07:48 AM	#16
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	Damn right I'm glad to be born in the west If, for example, I lost everything and couldn't work then in the UK I'd: Have housing given to me and the rent/mortgage and water bills paid for. Be given enough money to live on. Receive free healthcare/optician/dentist inc. perscription costs. Receive free education (I already have my University fees paid for, managed to wrangle that one ) If I had a family then I would receive money on a weekly basis...I think it is something like £20/child.......my kids would also receive free lunches at school. When I could return to work I would have all clothing and travel costs paid for me to attend interviews etc. When I am 65 I will receive a state pension and £400 a year towards heating costs....oh and a pass for public transport. If I were disabled then the government pays to have my house renovated (stairlifts, accessways etc) and I would receive a car (fully paid for) even if I couldn't drive then my next of kin get the car, so long as I have complete access to it I worry about a few things in life.....but at least in the UK Starving, hypothermia and lack of health care are not some of them . Hell, it doesn't even cost me a penny to have my pets seen to by the vet __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

01-30-2003, 07:53 AM	#17
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	i allways wished i had been born in olden times cos basically killing stuff and having lots of women suits me to a tee aprentally i should of been a Caveman. But i am glad i was born in england cos we have foootball and pubs of great worth __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

01-30-2003, 08:53 AM	#18
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	What's wrong with Japan AE, always seems (from afar) an interesting place to me? My two main criteria: 1) Brews good beer: UK, Belgium, Germany, Czech Republic 2) Plays rugby league to Test level UK, New Zealand, France, Australia, Papua New Guinea Combining the two means I'll stick with the UK for now. Mind you, watching Carcasonne play at home with a bottle of red wine is tempting, so France is coming up on the rails! But seriously, I suppose that (barring things being truly terrible) there's a natural tendency to think that this time and this place are best, isn't there? We'd all be miserable as sin if we didn't. __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

01-30-2003, 09:33 AM	#19
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	It's because the Western countries are closer to the Undying Lands . . . __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

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