Mystery of the Ringwraiths

congressmn · 01-20-2003, 03:45 PM

They were supposed to be a 10th dark rider.
Ane ine knows bout him?

FrodoFriend · 01-20-2003, 03:47 PM

Really? Where did you get this info? I'm interested!

congressmn · 01-20-2003, 03:53 PM

Well one of my friends raised this issue in school. I will as k him tommorrow, and confirm the source of this contovercy.
But i think its true, there was a 10th dark rider.

but somewhere along the way, his trory was lost.
Nothing certain bout this.

Any one has any answers?

FrodoFriend · 01-20-2003, 04:33 PM

Now begins . . . the Quest for the 10th Dark Rider! - dramatic music - Da da da dada daaaaaa!! Who will be the 10th Nazgul?

durin's bane · 01-20-2003, 07:43 PM

A tenth Ringwraith...uh oh...theory nerve has been activated...

I think a tenth Ringwraith would be possible...maybe he was lost and slain or something on the way to the Shire...but there is the line in the poem that says "...Nine for the mortal men doomed to die..." those nine mortal men became the Nazgul. But who says there wasn't another Ring made...or one of those Men shared their power with someone else...*dun dun dun*

johnnyrod · 01-20-2003, 09:49 PM

If there is something behind this then get on with it, congressmn, because so far you seem to be full of so much hot air. There were nine rings for men, which produced the Nazgul. Am I missing something?

The Lady of Ithilien · 01-20-2003, 10:15 PM

Quote:

I think a tenth Ringwraith would be possible...maybe he was lost and slain or something on the way to the Shire...

Actually, he got rather lost in time and separated from his nine fellows, but on his arrival in the Shire met the Old Took's fourth fabulous daughter, Hensbane (who isn't mentioned in the chronicles as her mother wasn't Adamanta Chubb), and was so smitten with her, he assumed hobbit form, adopted the name "Sandyman," opened a mill in the Bywater area, and married Hensbane: now that they were both finally respectable and filled to overflowing with bliss, they lived happily ever after.

PS: The full story is told in the ballad "Wannabe the Nazgûl," most recently recorded by Finn McGhoul and the Louts 'round about midnight in a live session one Halloween at The Forsaken Inn:

"Clueless he was,
And ringless, too,
Yet cloaked all in black,
Though he only stood five feet two,
Wannabe....
the Nazgûl....
Ah-ooooooooooo....."

The entire ballad goes on quite a bit in this vein, and rivals The Lay of Leithan in length as well as intricacy, though most listeners fall asleep before the end so the exact number of verses is still unknown.

Arathorn · 01-21-2003, 01:03 AM

I think that the 10th was a Work-In-Progress during the War of the Ring. His brothers went to fetch him many times but he was taken hostage by his 8 other companions: a smart-aleck-maia who got sent to the Valar's version of the south pole, 2 men fighting over a crown, an elf who decided to play one last round of good guy before retiring, a dwarf who likes elves and 3 halflings who refused to be ruled by this 10th one.

Seriously, I'm also interested on your friend's version of this 10th nazgul.

Wayfarer · 01-21-2003, 02:07 AM

Nimphredil · 01-21-2003, 03:51 AM

The 10th Nazgul is Sauron

hobinator · 01-21-2003, 04:11 AM

i think the 10th wraith is possible becuase remeber when frodo got stabbed, aragorn said he is passing into the dark and soon will become a wraith like them, perhaps they have done this to someone else

congressmn · 01-21-2003, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by hobinator
i think the 10th wraith is possible becuase remeber when frodo got stabbed, aragorn said he is passing into the dark and soon will become a wraith like them, perhaps they have done this to someone else

But really his passing on to the darker side doesnt really mean he will become a Ringwraith. This isnt STAR WARS and he isnt darth vaders' son.

He could well be converted into a hideous evil loathsome charachter, and not nessacarily a ringwraith.

congressmn · 01-21-2003, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nimphredil
The 10th Nazgul is Sauron

10th Nazgul is Sauron. Thanks a lot you have solved it. Sauron has turned himself into a Ringwraith, quite a story.
Are u thinking of adding another sequel to the Lord of the Rings?

Grey_Wolf · 01-21-2003, 11:24 AM

They were NINE in all. EIGHT RIDERS and the Witch King.

Wayfarer · 01-21-2003, 12:05 PM

The Witch King was a Rider too.

Sauron wasn't a nazgul, because he wasn't a wraith.

Frodo was close to becoming a wraith, but not a RINGwraith. There is a difference.

hobinator · 01-21-2003, 12:44 PM

ohh, i understand now about the wraiths and ringwraiths, also here is a bit of fun info, Alan Lee played one of the nine kings of men in the beginning of fellowship, but thats movies thread

congressmn · 01-21-2003, 12:52 PM

Funny

FrodoFriend · 01-21-2003, 02:05 PM

Sure there's a 10th Rider. We just never see him because the Witch King always keeps him hidden away under his cloak . . . hey, there's a runt in every litter, right?

Herooftheworld · 01-21-2003, 08:06 PM

I think that there could've been a 1oth ringwriath, and come on, he could've been murdered on the way to the region. Or he was just hanging around somewhere, that's what I do!

Shadowfax · 01-21-2003, 09:35 PM

.............I just don't think so.

01-20-2003, 03:45 PM	#1
congressmn Incharge: neighbourhood security Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on my 499th post Posts: 481	Mystery of the Ringwraiths They were supposed to be a 10th dark rider. Ane ine knows bout him?

01-20-2003, 03:47 PM	#2
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Really? Where did you get this info? I'm interested! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-20-2003, 04:33 PM	#4
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Now begins . . . the Quest for the 10th Dark Rider! - dramatic music - Da da da dada daaaaaa!! Who will be the 10th Nazgul? __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-20-2003, 07:43 PM	#5
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	A tenth Ringwraith...uh oh...theory nerve has been activated... I think a tenth Ringwraith would be possible...maybe he was lost and slain or something on the way to the Shire...but there is the line in the poem that says "...Nine for the mortal men doomed to die..." those nine mortal men became the Nazgul. But who says there wasn't another Ring made...or one of those Men shared their power with someone else...dun dun dun __________________ Yada, yada, yada

01-20-2003, 09:49 PM	#6
johnnyrod Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scunthorpe, UK Posts: 166	If there is something behind this then get on with it, congressmn, because so far you seem to be full of so much hot air. There were nine rings for men, which produced the Nazgul. Am I missing something? __________________ Frodo Lives!

01-20-2003, 03:53 PM	#3
congressmn Incharge: neighbourhood security Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on my 499th post Posts: 481	Well one of my friends raised this issue in school. I will as k him tommorrow, and confirm the source of this contovercy. But i think its true, there was a 10th dark rider. but somewhere along the way, his trory was lost. Nothing certain bout this. Any one has any answers?

01-21-2003, 01:03 AM	#8
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	I think that the 10th was a Work-In-Progress during the War of the Ring. His brothers went to fetch him many times but he was taken hostage by his 8 other companions: a smart-aleck-maia who got sent to the Valar's version of the south pole, 2 men fighting over a crown, an elf who decided to play one last round of good guy before retiring, a dwarf who likes elves and 3 halflings who refused to be ruled by this 10th one. Seriously, I'm also interested on your friend's version of this 10th nazgul. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... Last edited by Arathorn : 01-21-2003 at 01:06 AM.

01-21-2003, 02:07 AM	#9
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	No. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-21-2003, 03:51 AM	#10
Nimphredil Sapling Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Estonia Posts: 12	The 10th Nazgul is Sauron

01-21-2003, 04:11 AM	#11
hobinator Enting Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 93	i think the 10th wraith is possible becuase remeber when frodo got stabbed, aragorn said he is passing into the dark and soon will become a wraith like them, perhaps they have done this to someone else

01-21-2003, 11:24 AM	#14
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	They were NINE in all. EIGHT RIDERS and the Witch King. Last edited by Grey_Wolf : 01-21-2003 at 11:29 AM.

01-21-2003, 12:05 PM	#15
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	The Witch King was a Rider too. Sauron wasn't a nazgul, because he wasn't a wraith. Frodo was close to becoming a wraith, but not a RINGwraith. There is a difference. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-21-2003, 12:44 PM	#16
hobinator Enting Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 93	ohh, i understand now about the wraiths and ringwraiths, also here is a bit of fun info, Alan Lee played one of the nine kings of men in the beginning of fellowship, but thats movies thread

01-21-2003, 12:52 PM	#17
congressmn Incharge: neighbourhood security Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on my 499th post Posts: 481	Funny

01-21-2003, 02:05 PM	#18
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Sure there's a 10th Rider. We just never see him because the Witch King always keeps him hidden away under his cloak . . . hey, there's a runt in every litter, right? __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-21-2003, 08:06 PM	#19
Herooftheworld Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kiel,Wisconsin Posts: 16	I aggree with Durin's Bane!` I think that there could've been a 1oth ringwriath, and come on, he could've been murdered on the way to the region. Or he was just hanging around somewhere, that's what I do!

01-21-2003, 09:35 PM	#20
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	.............I just don't think so. __________________ Jesus saved me "To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child" (Cicero, 106-43 B.C.) "Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth" (Picasso)

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