ROTK: Paths of the Dead lead from Helm's Deep?

***IronParrot*** · 12-19-2002, 06:36 PM

It is my firm belief that the Paths of the Dead lead out from behind Helm's Deep, in the film of The Return of the King.

Here's my rationale for making such a claim:

- No Dunharrow in the film. Doesn't make sense to just stick it in there now.

- Eowyn is already there - you can get the parting between Aragorn and Eowyn going, assuming she just stays there while everybody else walks off to Isengard.

- At a point in TTT, Aragorn asks if there is any other way out of the caves, and the reply is that there is one other way out back. This is right before Aragorn and Theoden charge the enemy. Now, seeing how this "last-ditch secret passage" isn't even used here, I'm pretty sure the point is to establish the entrance to the Paths of the Dead in ROTK.

Thoughts?

Falagar · 12-19-2002, 07:12 PM

It sounds possible...When I think of it, it even sounds probable! Though I was hoping to see how they pictured Dunharrow and all those statues of the Woses...

***IronParrot*** · 12-20-2002, 01:46 AM

A part of me really doubts the Woses will be in at all, unfortunately. Of course, I could be wrong. They could always get John Rhys-Davies to do a third role as Ghan-Buri-Ghan

SamwiseGamgeeOTS · 12-20-2002, 12:49 PM

Hey, I think that that is definatly an option. But, i was really disapointed about the ending of TTT and how the Fellowship is still how they are. I wanted Gandalf to go get Pippin and take him to Gondor, but I guess that's not gonna happen. IM me with comments!

Warrior · 12-21-2002, 11:46 AM

they could do it that way, but i think another way they could do it is when they march to Isengard Theoden could send everyone to Dunharrow since Helm's Deep has a big whole in its wall and it gates are smashed, it leaves all the women and children vulnerable since the men are off to Isengard.

Dúnedain · 01-05-2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by IronParrot
It is my firm belief that the Paths of the Dead lead out from behind Helm's Deep, in the film of The Return of the King.

Here's my rationale for making such a claim:

- No Dunharrow in the film. Doesn't make sense to just stick it in there now.

- Eowyn is already there - you can get the parting between Aragorn and Eowyn going, assuming she just stays there while everybody else walks off to Isengard.

- At a point in TTT, Aragorn asks if there is any other way out of the caves, and the reply is that there is one other way out back. This is right before Aragorn and Theoden charge the enemy. Now, seeing how this "last-ditch secret passage" isn't even used here, I'm pretty sure the point is to establish the entrance to the Paths of the Dead in ROTK.

Thoughts?

I think you make some really valid points. This is one of the things I have been thinking about a lot, because I want to the see The Paths of the Dead more than anything in the next movie. I think with the effects they've done so far, the PotD should be wicked!!

Someone above also mentioned getting "John Rhys-Davies a third role"? What is his second role?

squinteyedsoutherner · 01-05-2003, 04:16 PM

The voice of Treebeard

legolasluvr2931 · 01-05-2003, 04:20 PM

I am totally confused!

Shadowfax · 01-05-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by legolasluvr2931
I am totally confused!

About what?

Dúnedain · 01-05-2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by squinteyedsoutherner
The voice of Treebeard

Wow, I didn't know that, cool

Beleg Strongbow · 01-06-2003, 09:26 AM

I think that they will omit the Paths of the Dead.

Dúnedain · 01-06-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Beleg Strongbow
I think that they will omit the Paths of the Dead.

No way, that is one of the most important points of the book!

HobbitLady · 01-06-2003, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnadain
I think you make some really valid points. This is one of the things I have been thinking about a lot, because I want to the see The Paths of the Dead more than anything in the next movie. I think with the effects they've done so far, the PotD should be wicked!!

I agree, I can't wait to see how they do it. It one of my favorite parts in the book! They did the Dead Marshes so well, I can't even imagine how amazing the Paths of the Dead with turn out to be.

12-19-2002, 06:36 PM	#1
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	ROTK: Paths of the Dead lead from Helm's Deep? It is my firm belief that the Paths of the Dead lead out from behind Helm's Deep, in the film of The Return of the King. Here's my rationale for making such a claim: - No Dunharrow in the film. Doesn't make sense to just stick it in there now. - Eowyn is already there - you can get the parting between Aragorn and Eowyn going, assuming she just stays there while everybody else walks off to Isengard. - At a point in TTT, Aragorn asks if there is any other way out of the caves, and the reply is that there is one other way out back. This is right before Aragorn and Theoden charge the enemy. Now, seeing how this "last-ditch secret passage" isn't even used here, I'm pretty sure the point is to establish the entrance to the Paths of the Dead in ROTK. Thoughts? __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

12-19-2002, 07:12 PM	#2
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	It sounds possible...When I think of it, it even sounds probable! Though I was hoping to see how they pictured Dunharrow and all those statues of the Woses... __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

12-20-2002, 01:46 AM	#3
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	A part of me really doubts the Woses will be in at all, unfortunately. Of course, I could be wrong. They could always get John Rhys-Davies to do a third role as Ghan-Buri-Ghan __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

12-20-2002, 12:49 PM	#4
SamwiseGamgeeOTS Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A quaint little hole which last time I checked was somewhere near Ohio, Middle-Earth. Posts: 165	Hey, I think that that is definatly an option. But, i was really disapointed about the ending of TTT and how the Fellowship is still how they are. I wanted Gandalf to go get Pippin and take him to Gondor, but I guess that's not gonna happen. IM me with comments! __________________ "...Eragon recoiled in shock. Standing in front of him, licking off the membrane that encased it, was a dragon."

01-06-2003, 09:26 AM	#11
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	I think that they will omit the Paths of the Dead. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

12-21-2002, 11:46 AM	#5
Warrior Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 19	they could do it that way, but i think another way they could do it is when they march to Isengard Theoden could send everyone to Dunharrow since Helm's Deep has a big whole in its wall and it gates are smashed, it leaves all the women and children vulnerable since the men are off to Isengard.

01-05-2003, 04:16 PM	#7
squinteyedsoutherner Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 198	The voice of Treebeard

01-05-2003, 04:20 PM	#8
legolasluvr2931 Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 30	I am totally confused!

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