12-18-2002, 06:18 PM | #1 |
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Two Towers: spot the deleted scene
I noticed that there was a lot of stuff in the trailer attached to the end of Fellowship back in March that didn't make it this far. Either that, or I have a terrible recollection of what I saw last night.
Gandalf's line to Aragorn, "Sauron is not so mighty yet that he is above fear. He fears you; he fears what you may become" is not there. Maybe this is being left until the next film, but if it isn't, I don't see where it could possibly be - I don't recall that Gandalf and Aragorn were ever together at Helm's Deep at all, as Gandalf parts with him much earlier. Saruman's line: "So Gandalf Greyhame thinks he has found the lost king of Gondor. It matters not; the world of men shall fall" is not in the film. As above, except I don't think Saruman's in a comfortable position to sit around and think so comfortably anymore, now that his place is underwater. Gandalf's other onscreen line there, "There is a union now between the Two Towers..." is gone completely, and I can't think of where it could possibly fit into the film even if it were there, because Gandalf and Aragorn are never even at Helm's Deep together until the end of the movie, when Saruman has been defeated and that statement is perhaps a bit irrelevant. Anybody else notice this sort of thing? It would be easy to pass these off as deleted scenes that are long gone, since this was a March trailer after all, but what is curious is that I have no idea where they would be even if they were in the movie.
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12-18-2002, 07:56 PM | #2 |
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Mainly because you are wrong about the first and third lines you comment on - they ARE in the film
But you are, I think, right about the second one - don't recall hearing it. |
12-18-2002, 07:59 PM | #3 |
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Okay, I am definitely going to look for those lines when I see the film again... I don't recall catching them at all. But maybe it was because I'd been up and about for nigh on fourteen hours.
How about from the last trailer: Arwen running up the stairs - "You have the gift of foresight; tell me what you have seen!" Not there either.
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12-19-2002, 12:58 AM | #4 |
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I don't remember any of those lines, either. I would guess that they will be in the Extended Edition.
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12-19-2002, 08:25 AM | #5 |
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Nope don't recall the Arwen line - well remembered.
As for the two I say are in, I think they are voice-overs nearish the start (which could mean anything with a 3 hour running time...). |
12-19-2002, 08:27 AM | #6 |
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I agree. Many scenes from trailers seem to have just disappeared! I would estimate that there could be up to an hour of deleted footage. Hopefully we'll get to see it later.
I saw a picture of Merry and Pippin entering the store-room in Isengard; there wasn't anything like that.
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12-19-2002, 11:07 AM | #7 |
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In the book Gandalf rode to the rescue with Erkenbrand and arrived just after the huorns. Remember the company riding through the huorn forest afterwards and Gimli freaking out because Legolas was going to head back into the forest? Just on their way to Isengard and to confront Saruman.
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Whatever picture you saw of Merry and Pippin from the "Flotsam and Jetsam" chapter is probably present in the film, meaning The Return of the King...
Anyway, I did see the film a second time last night, and I was right the first time - none of those scenes are in. That's not the only point I'm trying to make, though. I'm saying that the trailer bits with Gandalf talking to Aragorn don't fit anywhere in the continuity of the finished film. Gerbil, they are not voice-overs. Saruman has a similar line about "the union of the Two Towers" but it's not nearly the same thing, and there isn't any reference to Aragorn's destiny to take up the throne of Gondor at all.
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I think its going to be in the extended edition.
But one reviewer said that we were going to see Pippin look into the palatir (dunno how to spell it) but he didnt...
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12-19-2002, 07:38 PM | #10 |
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For the people going on about Pippin and Merry at Isengard:
The aftermath of Isengard hasn't happened yet! It'll be in the RotK film if anything, so you'll have to wait a year. And those lines: Bugger me, I reckon I'm getting the trailer and the film confused! That'll teach me to see FotR the day before! Sowwy! |
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12-25-2002, 12:26 AM | #12 |
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Here's something that I found on theonering.net that might be of interest: http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1040672176. Some of this stuff should appear on TTT Extended Edition DVD.
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