Sieges: Isildur and Anarion

afro-elf · 08-17-2002, 03:07 AM

Who long did Minas Ithil hold before it was taken?

IIRC didn't Anarion hold Minas Arnor and Osgiliath for about five years before the Last Alliance crosses the Misty mountains?

It would seem that was one truly outstanding general to hold them both against Sauron while he had the the Ring .

Ñólendil · 08-20-2002, 03:00 AM

It did not seem right to me that one who contributes so much to Entmoot and is so eager for knowledge should receive no replies to his topic. So I'm bumping it up in the hopes that some one who is less lazy than I will respond with answers.

afro-elf · 08-20-2002, 06:47 AM

Thanks buddy.

I got some replies at xenite:

http://www.sf-fandom.com/vbulletin/s...threadid=29370

Gilrond · 09-08-2002, 06:26 PM

I have heard that Anarion did indeed do that, but I am sorry to say I have nothing to confirm it with. Sorry.

"Faithless is he that say farewell when the road darkens."
--Gimli son of Gloin

Keith K · 12-04-2002, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by afro-elf
Who long did Minas Ithil hold before it was taken?

I believe that Minas Ithil held out against the siege for approximately two years.
I find your question about Anarion intriquing. The early years of the Dunedain are vague and not enough is written of Elendil and his sons to assuage my curiosity. Must've been quite chaotic in ME at the time considering that it was the end of an Age and the beginning of an Age...a period of momentous change.

Lefty Scaevola · 12-04-2002, 10:43 AM

Well they had about a century to orgnize their kingdoms. About one generation of procreation among the Dunedain, and 3 among the 'normal' lifetime subjects. Durring this organizational phase, coopting the local Numenorians and Numenorian influenced other men, dealing with hostile tribes, Saurons forces and allies, and various other persons not enthusiatic about said kingdoms, I expect that military preparedness was a high priority on their 'to do list'.

Keith K · 12-04-2002, 10:55 PM

Thankyou for your input Lefty, it was quite insightful. I had not considered the single generation angle before. I had heard that Sauron wanted to destroy the Dunedain before they could take root, which is sound military strategy. The Numenorian refugees countered as best they could constructing defenses in Isengard, on Weathertop, Minas Tirith, Minas Ithil, Helms Deep and other places. Not bad for one generation.

08-17-2002, 03:07 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Sieges: Isildur and Anarion Who long did Minas Ithil hold before it was taken? IIRC didn't Anarion hold Minas Arnor and Osgiliath for about five years before the Last Alliance crosses the Misty mountains? It would seem that was one truly outstanding general to hold them both against Sauron while he had the the Ring . __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-20-2002, 03:00 AM	#2
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	It did not seem right to me that one who contributes so much to Entmoot and is so eager for knowledge should receive no replies to his topic. So I'm bumping it up in the hopes that some one who is less lazy than I will respond with answers. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

08-20-2002, 06:47 AM	#3
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Thanks buddy. I got some replies at xenite: http://www.sf-fandom.com/vbulletin/s...threadid=29370 __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

09-08-2002, 06:26 PM	#4
Gilrond Enting Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 52	A Reply I have heard that Anarion did indeed do that, but I am sorry to say I have nothing to confirm it with. Sorry. "Faithless is he that say farewell when the road darkens." --Gimli son of Gloin

12-04-2002, 10:43 AM	#6
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	Well they had about a century to orgnize their kingdoms. About one generation of procreation among the Dunedain, and 3 among the 'normal' lifetime subjects. Durring this organizational phase, coopting the local Numenorians and Numenorian influenced other men, dealing with hostile tribes, Saurons forces and allies, and various other persons not enthusiatic about said kingdoms, I expect that military preparedness was a high priority on their 'to do list'. __________________ Gaius Mucius Scaevola Older, richer, and wiser than you "Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melkor, but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Iluvatar, those things that ye have sung, I will show them forth, ... And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me," Last edited by Lefty Scaevola : 12-05-2002 at 10:43 AM.

12-04-2002, 10:55 PM	#7
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	Thankyou for your input Lefty, it was quite insightful. I had not considered the single generation angle before. I had heard that Sauron wanted to destroy the Dunedain before they could take root, which is sound military strategy. The Numenorian refugees countered as best they could constructing defenses in Isengard, on Weathertop, Minas Tirith, Minas Ithil, Helms Deep and other places. Not bad for one generation.

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