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Old 07-01-2002, 10:24 AM   #1
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Best trek captain

Who do you think is the best/worst trek captain?

I would say Mckenzie Calhoun. He is the capt. in the Next Frontier books. But since I doubt everyone knows them like the others

I'll say Kirk from the MOVIES.

I gotta fly so I'll elaborate later
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Old 07-02-2002, 12:08 AM   #2
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James Tiberius Kirk.....Cowboy diplomacy at its best.
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Old 07-02-2002, 08:48 AM   #3
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Picard, cause, ya know, played by someone who can act.
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Old 07-03-2002, 04:07 AM   #4
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the character not the actor
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Old 07-03-2002, 07:19 PM   #5
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I love Jean Luc Picard, I used to want to be a space-explorer because he is so cool!
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Picard is the best. Out of all of them, I'd like to have him as my captain.
Janeway is my least favourite, but Kirk is a close second.
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I like to be under Picard. or Sulu when he becomes captain in his latter years. I'd like to follow someone more seasoned and less gungho. What I'd like to say is that I do admire Kirk as a viewer of his exploits but I wouldn't want to be in the oven with him following his orders.
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100 Reasons Kirk is better than Picard
If anyone has the 100 reasons Picard is better than Kirk, let me know.
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100. Kirk is a leader, not a follower.
99. Kirk never really got into that kinky "Jumpsuit" look.
98. Kirk has sex more than once a season.
97. One Word: Hair.
96. Another Word: Pretty-good-looking-can't-see-the-weave-WIG.
95. Kirk can beat up a Klingon bare-handed.
94. Picard is a French man with an English accent.
93. Kirk would date Beverly Crusher -- and damn the consequences!!
92. Kirk never drinks tea. Ever.
91. Diplomacy for Kirk is a phaser and a smirk.
90. Kirk would personally throw Wesley off his bridge.
89. Two words: Shoulder Roll.
88. Kirk doesn't wear dresses when admirals arrive for lunch.
87. Kirk once said: "I've got a belly-ache -- and it's a beauty."
86. Kirk would never sing to children in a crisis.
85. Kirk can almost drive a stick shift.
84. Kirk, almost single-handedly, re-populated the Earth's whale
population.
83. Kirk says "Prime Directive? What Prime Directive?"
82. Kirk knows 20th Century curses.
81. Kirk was NEVER infiltrated by the Borg and used against the
Federation.
80. Kirk ate little coloured cubes and still remained relatively healthy.
79. Kirk made do with obviously low performance technology.
78. Kirk never pretends to be a barber in order to gain a tactical
advantage.
77. Kirk wasn't shy about taking his shirt off
--even around those pesky Yeomans.
76. Kirk would never waste a holodeck on something stupid like Dixon Hill.
75. Kirk never once stood up and had to straighten his shirt.
74. One Word: Velour.
73. Kirk can beat a Vulcan at Chess.
72. When Kirk was Picard's age, he retired from Admiral and took to
climbing rocks.
71. When Picard was 37, he was only Captain of the lowly freighter,
Stargazer. When Kirk was 37, he was Captain of the flagship
Enterprise.
70. Kirk liked a good belt of liquor every now and again.
69. One Word: Iman.
68. Kirk looks good with a ripped shirt.
67. If Kirk ever met a Ferengi, he would rip off its head and **** down
its neck.
66. Kirk says "Shoot first and wait for retaliation."
65. Kirk's first officer NEVER tells him to stay on the bridge.
64. Kirk never leaves the room to bawl somebody out.
63. Kirk doesn't rely on the wisdom of some dumb old
janitor to get him out of intergalactic scrapes.
62. Two Words: Funky Sideburns.
61. Kirk never asks his bartender for advice.
60. Kirk never once said "Abandon ship! All hands abandon ship!"
59. Kirk is not politically correct.
58. Kirk never got "dumped" by a woman for an intergalactic busy body named
after a letter of the alphabet.
57. Kirk never wore green tights and frolicked about in Sherwood Forest.
56. If there was ever a Klingon on Kirk's bridge, Kirk would likely be
dead.
55. Ever hear of a bar shooter called "Make it so?" No? How about a
"Beam me up Scotty" then? See the difference?
54. One Word: Miniskirts.
53. Kirk's girlfriends always look good in soft light.
52. Kirk never went anywhere without a whole bunch of guys in red
shirts.
51. Kirk's first officer didn't play some wimpy instrument like the
trombone.
50. Kirk had more dates than his first officer.
49. The extent of Kirk's knowledge of Klingon vocabulary can be roughly
translated as "GO F*CK YOURSELF."
48. If something doesn't speak English -- it's toast.
47. Kirk wasn't some prissy archaeology fan.
46. Picard's middle name isn't tough or awe-inspiring like Tiberius is.
45. If Kirk finds a strange spinning probe, he blows it up.
44. Picard never met Joan Collins.
43. Picard flunked his entrance exams to Starfleet.
42 Picard hasn't fathered any children; Kirk -- probably millions.
41. Kirk has a cool phaser -- not some pansy Braun mix-master.
40. Two Words: Line Delivery.
39. Picard grew up on a quaint little French vineyard, squishing grapes
with his toes, while Kirk slung bails of wheat and hay
in Iowa to put himself through school.
38. Kirk emphasizes his orations with pertinent hand gestures.
37. Kirk once made a cannon out of bamboo, sulphur, potassium nitrate,
charcoal and then fired diamonds into the hearts of his
enemies. (Need we say more?)
36. Kirk is not put off by green skin.
35. Kirk knows how to deal with peace loving hippy goofs.
34. Kirk once fought a Greek god. And won.
33. Kirk barely asks for suggestions. And if he does, he asks Spock only.
32. Kirk doesn't let the doctor tell him what to do.
31. One Word: Fisticuffs.
30. Kirk's name is hated throughout the galaxy.
29. Kirk appreciates Shakespeare, but he doesn't let it show.
28. You can never lock up Kirk for very long.
27. Kirk's eulogies can actually make you cry.
26. Kirk plays god with lesser cultures, and then exploits them for
resources.
25. Kirk's son would never drop out to become a musician.
24. Kirk can climb up a Jeffries Tube and fix anything.
23. Kirk never hired an engineer with punk glasses.
22. The Klingons didn't have a word for surrender -- until they met Kirk.
21. Kirk's bridge is not beige.
20.Two Words: Crane Shots.
19. Picard likes wimpy violin music -- and coerces Data into playing it.
18. Picard allows cats on board, while Kirk beams away even really cute
things, like Tribbles.
17. Kirk is a cultural icon -- Picard is just some guy who's really nice.
16. Kirk specifically ordered a swivel LA-Z-BOY for the bridge.
15. Kirk would never touch SYNTHAHOL.
14. Kirk looks distinguished in reading glasses -- and nobody dares to
call him"four eyes."
13. Kirk can infiltrate Gangsters, Nazis, and even the Pentagon -- easily.
12. Picard likes painting nudes, for art's sake.
11. When Kirk doesn't trust the Romulans, he fires at them. When Picard
doesn't trust the Romulans, he gets fired at.
10. Kirk never once, ever,wore a wiener wrapping Speedo banana hammock on
shore leave.
9. Kirk never gets his command codes locked out by some pimply acting
ensign.
8. Kirk doesn't test the engines -- he just fires them up.
7. When Kirk says "Boldly Go," he MEANS it.
6. Three Words: Flying Leg Kick
5. Picard's crew would never ever think of him as a sexual object.
4. Kirk traveled through The Great Barrier, met God, and wasn't even
impressed.
3. Kirk's bedroom is a passion pit with electric sheets.
2. Kirk would never let his Chief of Security wear a ponytail.
1. One Word: Balls.
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She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

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Old 07-04-2002, 02:46 PM   #9
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this is even better

http://www.geocities.com/phineasbg/krkbest.html

as of this moment its JUST under 1400 reasons wht kirk is better that picard
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She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

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Old 07-04-2002, 03:15 PM   #10
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And here we have the 100 reason why Picard is better than Kirk!
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100. Picard doesn't need to hop in the sack to prove his masculinity.
99. If Kirk had been killed in the first episode, the show would have been reduced to 30 minutes of good acting.
98. Picard has learned patience. Kirk couldn't learn the alphabet.
97. Kirk didn't have the brains to read a book or appreciate fictional characters like Dixon Hill.
96. Picard admits he's made mistakes. It takes a real man to admit their errors.
95. Picard can tell the difference between a real woman and a mirage.
94. If a group of 10 sex starved women were being rescued by the captain of the Enterprise; if it were Kirk, they'd run away screaming, "We'll wait for the next ship!"
93. Picard can walk the walk.
92. Picard can talk the talk.
91. Kirk can do neither without seeming like an ape.
90. Kirk would never have allowed an episode involving a dream sequence in which Deanna and Worf become lovers. It would have taken away too much attention from him.
89. Kirk wouldn't wear a kilt because people would have laughed at his legs and he would have had to kill the entire crew.
88. If Kirk had met the Borg, they wouldn't have assimilated him. They would have discarded him as space debris.
87. The Borg only assimilate intelligent life.
86. Picard cares if the crew lives or dies.
85. Picard hasn't contributed to the population explosion.
84. Picard had the sense to get rid of the ugly doctor and get Beverly back.
83. Kirk's girlfriends looked best in complete darkness.
82. Kirk left the Enterprise to become a police captain.
81. Picard is still on the Enterprise.
80. Kirk has not aged well.
79. Picard has aged beautifully.
78. The creator's wife doesn't follow Kirk around making cow eyes at him!
77. Do women swoon when they hear "Beam me up, Scotty?" No? How about "Make it so?" *Drools...I love Picard* See the difference?
76. Kirk never said "Abandon ship! All hands abandon ship!" because he was already out of there at the first hint of trouble.
75. A holodeck would have been a waste to Kirk.
74. Picard can pilot the Enterprise though a mine field.
73. Picard drinks Earl Grey tea.
72. Picard can actually speak to an android of high intelligence and be understood.
71. Kirk had low performance technology because he couldn't handle high performance technology.
70. Nobody wonders about what Picard does with *his* first officer...
69. Kirk doesn't have a maneuver named after him.
68. Picard's science officer has perfect recall, knows the Vulcan neck pinch, and *never* sleeps.
67. Kirk goes into the past, Picard goes into the future.
66. Picard's Chief of Security wears chain mail.
65. When going into warp, Picard's Enterprise changes shape and disappears in a brilliant flash of light. Kirk's Enterprise just makes a whooshing sound.
64. Three letters: ILM.
63. Kirk never ran around Starfleet Headquarters firing phasers at Admirals.
62. Picard mastered the flute in *twenty-five minutes*.
61. When Picard's Enterprise cloaks, it can travel through solid rock.
60. Picard never got obsessed by the idea of killing a *cloud*.
59. When Picard gets captured by Romulans, he fights his way out. When Kirk gets captured by Romulans, he pretends that he's dead until they go away.
58. Picard got stabbed in the chest and lived.
57. If Kirk wants a Bird of Prey, he has to steal one. Picard just has to ask, and the Klingons give him one.
56. Picard's nemesis: an omnipotent malevolent being. Kirk's nemesis: a beer-bellied liar.
55. When Kirk was Picard's age, they made him retire.
54. Kirk's first officer plays chess and loses. Picard's first officer plays poker and wins.
53. Picard's food processor: a transporter with voice recognition. Kirk's food processor: a sliding door with buttons.
52. When he's bored, Picard reads Shakespeare. When he's bored, Kirk wrestles with young boys.
51. Picard: artist, swordsman, musician. Kirk: swaggering, tin-plated dictator with delusions of godhood.
50. Picard's first officer can (and does) get it on with a woman more often than once every seven years.
49. Picard's Enterprise has *windows*.
48. Picard is assigned to protect the Klingon Empire from invasion by Romulans. Kirk is assigned to protect bins of wheat from invasion by tiny fuzzballs.
47. Picard succeeds in protecting the Klingon Empire from invasion by Romulans. Kirk fails to protect bins of wheat from invasion by tiny fuzzballs.
46. Picard got blasted in the chest and lived.
45. Picard's first officer never borrows the Enterprise without asking first.
44. Picard's engineer has X-Ray vision.
43. One word: replicators.
42. Picard makes a *much* better Romulan.
41. Picard has never blown up more than half of his ship.
40 To Picard, his mission is more important than his sex.
39 Two words: No toupet.
38. Picard is a man of the world from Paris. Kirk is just a stupid farmer from Iowa.
37. Picard has style.
36. One word: Fencing.
35. Picard said once: "There...are...FOUR...lights!"
34. Picard decoded the last message of the Creators almost singlehandedly.
33. Picard likes a good breakfast.
32. Picard wasn't ashamed of hanging completely nude before a Cardassian.
31. Picard never wore crumpled or torn uniforms.
30. Picard refused to take a command until he had enough experience. Kirk
took a command as soon as he could - and was captured and held prisoner
on every third mission.
29. If Picard ever met Trelane, he'd win the fencing duel.
28. Picard never had to blow up the Enterprise.
27. Picard said: "Merde!"
26. Picard has never toyed around with history, but if he had to, he
always restored it as it was.
25. Picard never gave his officers childish nicknames like "Bones" and
"Scotty".
24. Picard's first officer doesn't play some wimpy harp - he jams with
his trombone.
23. Picard speaks Klingonese liquidly.
22. Picard's hobby is more interesting than collecting books - he's the
24th century Indy Jones.
21. If Picard finds an alien computer, he knows how to deal with it and
does not have to blow it up.
20. Picard didn't have to cheat at the Kobayashi Maru Test.
19. Two words: designer shuttles
18. Picard grew up at a vintage and carried baskets of grapes all day
long while Kirk simply lay in the hay with all girls of the village.
17. Picard once saved the Enterprise from terrorists, all alone, only with
a laser cutter. Bruce Willis would be proud.
16. Picard was challenged by a god eight days a week - and always won.
15. Picard's doctor looks better than Kirk's and never said: "Dammit,
Jean-Luc, I'm a doctor, not an escalator!"
14. To capture Picard, you need a real trap. To capture Kirk, you say:
"Hey, Captain, here's a pit" and push him in.
13. Picard's chief engineer has never been drunken in service.
12. Picard's second officer can paint WELL!
11. Picard never destroyed a ship, only in self-defense.
10. Picard's officers get promoted. Kirk's get court-martialed.
9. When Picard's senior officers get killed, they *stay dead*.
8. Picard can save his ship being ensnared on the holodeck.
7. Picard never had problems finding dilithium.
6. Picard died, met God and wasn't even impressed.
5. Picard's picture is beside the word confidence in the dictionary.
4. Picard has the balls to stand among hundreds of Klingons and argue with them.
3. Kirk never knew Scotty lied to him about the status of the engines because he didn't understand the Enterprise didn't use gas.
2. Picard's science officer has a detachable head.
1. Picard LIVES!
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Old 07-04-2002, 10:03 PM   #11
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some of those were funny several were really wrong though

especially kirks intelligence and picard did not ALWAYS defeat the super beings
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He had to in The Original Motion Picture, and the Wrath of Khan...
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Old 09-28-2002, 08:27 PM   #14
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It has to be Cpt Kirk.........4 reasons..

He had the audacity to develop a beer belly

He had a crew who actually had ACCENTS

He kissed a green woman!!!!!(not that I give a jot about her colour..........but green!!!!)

He could defeat anyone/thing by clenching his hands, curling them into a fist and hitting them on the back of the neck

Serioulsy...........Kirk had the charisma (along with the original ST cast) but TNG had the storylines (and Patrick Stewart)
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Old 10-02-2002, 04:04 PM   #15
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I'll go against popular thinking and say Captain Sisko.
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I think I'm a Sulu fan....
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I always did have a crush on Yeoman Janice Rand
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Those who know me well know I adore James Tiberius Kirk and deeply admire Jean-Luc Picard. But I am beginning to like Jonathan Archer, the trailblazer, the man whose antics were probably the inspiration for the Prime Directive.
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Old 10-06-2002, 07:56 AM   #19
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More Kirk!!

Kirk flirted with Uhura for years!! (their's was the first televised interacial kiss! Good old Gene Roddenberry )
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Archer was the crappiest captain yet. I hate the new Star Trek series. It sucks so much. Anyway....my favourite captain would have to be Kirk, because he's not a wuss.
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