Denethor or Wormtongue?

Shana · 06-05-2002, 07:09 PM

The VERY VERY pale white man with balck hair that keeps peeking his head around the corner in TTT trailer is whom I am refering to.
Most say this is Wormtongue, and although Wormtongue is pale, the first time I say the preview, I immediately thought it was Denethor being all distraught over Boromir's death. Anyone know for sure? I'm sure somwone out there does.

olsonm · 06-05-2002, 07:26 PM

That's Brad Dourif. He plays Wormtongue. It's Wormtongue.

Shana · 06-05-2002, 08:28 PM

Yep. I did a bit of research and sure enough, it was bloody Wormtongue. DAMN! That image would have been PERFECT for a distraught Denethor...exactly as I imagined him.

Lizra · 06-05-2002, 08:30 PM

But Denethor is an OLD dude!

Shana · 06-05-2002, 11:56 PM

Yeah, but pale balck-haired man looked kinda old too...I wonder if they will make Denethor all plaxen and wanton lookin when he starts wasting away...Oh I hope! I hope!

Tar-Elendil · 06-06-2002, 12:37 AM

ive seen a pic of denethor...
if its the right one...sheesh they did it all wrong
he has long brown hair no beard. i imagined him old dude with grey hair etc.
i didnt like how they did thedoen either. his beard should be longer

Valacirca · 06-06-2002, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tar-Elendil
ive seen a pic of denethor...
if its the right one...sheesh they did it all wrong

Wouldn´t be the first one...

The Ringbearer · 06-07-2002, 04:18 AM

I saw the bootleg version and I think that Denethor looks just like Theoden should, and vice-versa. Also, Wormtongue looks like he's related to Smeagol( perfect!

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Finrod Felagund · 06-07-2002, 08:50 AM

I think, from what I've seen,. Theoden looks perfect!

Stalker in the Starlight · 06-20-2002, 05:42 PM

Yes, I've yet to see the trailer (WHERE do you people GET these things from?!?!?!?!!!!), but I've seen pictures, and these are my opinions:
Wormtongue: Ehh, I'll live. Kind of imagined him as a little less...umm...creepy looking, though. I don't think that the character's appearance should reflect the character's...character so much. It gives away the cahracter's intention. Even though I'm aware they're just trying to make it a little easier to recognize the bad guys, if *I* were Theoden King, that guy would have been kicked out of my court in no time.
Denethor: Mmm, he looks too young! He's got overall black hair and no beard (unless they re-shoot all of ROTK between now and its release), and he looks more like Wormtounge than Faramir or Boromir (might I add that Faramir and Boromir look so similar it's freaky, but that's GOOD!). They could have made him seem a *little* older...though he does look crazy enough to be Denethor. He's got this really freakish glare going on...
Theoden: PERFECTO! Old, and yet, powerful and proud-looking! Wonderful! *slaps PJ on the back in a friendly way* GOOD JOB! Ya did something RIGHT for once!
Eowyn: No complaints. Miranda Otto looks perfect. So sad, so desperate...I can see the torment in her face that must have been on Eowyn's *wipes away a rare tear* Wonderful. I can only hope, for her own personal safety, that she represents Eowyn well.
Eomer: WHY WON'T HE TAKE HIS STUPID HELM OFF SO I CAN SEE THAT GORGEOUS ROHIRRIM FACE OF HIS????!!!! *bawls*

The Ringbearer · 06-22-2002, 09:04 PM

I thought that Theoden was Denethor for quite a while, and STILL think Denetor and Theoden should swap characters.(Yes, I know I just said that.....)
Faramir: I don't know. He looks slightly odd to me, not in a bad way though.
Eowen:YES!!!!!! She is perfect! And I actually look like her!(a bit

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06-05-2002, 07:09 PM	#1
Shana Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Littleton, CO USA, or Mirkwood, or possibly Lothlorien, maybe even the House of Tom Bombadil Posts: 34	Denethor or Wormtongue? The VERY VERY pale white man with balck hair that keeps peeking his head around the corner in TTT trailer is whom I am refering to. Most say this is Wormtongue, and although Wormtongue is pale, the first time I say the preview, I immediately thought it was Denethor being all distraught over Boromir's death. Anyone know for sure? I'm sure somwone out there does.

06-05-2002, 07:26 PM	#2
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	That's Brad Dourif. He plays Wormtongue. It's Wormtongue. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

06-05-2002, 08:30 PM	#4
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	But Denethor is an OLD dude! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

06-06-2002, 12:37 AM	#6
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	ive seen a pic of denethor... if its the right one...sheesh they did it all wrong he has long brown hair no beard. i imagined him old dude with grey hair etc. i didnt like how they did thedoen either. his beard should be longer __________________ Why can we not be sober..

06-07-2002, 04:18 AM	#8
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	I saw the bootleg version and I think that Denethor looks just like Theoden should, and vice-versa. Also, Wormtongue looks like he's related to Smeagol( perfect! ) __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!

06-05-2002, 08:28 PM	#3
Shana Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Littleton, CO USA, or Mirkwood, or possibly Lothlorien, maybe even the House of Tom Bombadil Posts: 34	Yep. I did a bit of research and sure enough, it was bloody Wormtongue. DAMN! That image would have been PERFECT for a distraught Denethor...exactly as I imagined him.

06-05-2002, 11:56 PM	#5
Shana Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Littleton, CO USA, or Mirkwood, or possibly Lothlorien, maybe even the House of Tom Bombadil Posts: 34	Yeah, but pale balck-haired man looked kinda old too...I wonder if they will make Denethor all plaxen and wanton lookin when he starts wasting away...Oh I hope! I hope!

06-07-2002, 08:50 AM	#9
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	I think, from what I've seen,. Theoden looks perfect! __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

06-20-2002, 05:42 PM	#10
Stalker in the Starlight Hobbit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Right behind you! BOO! Posts: 24	Yes, I've yet to see the trailer (WHERE do you people GET these things from?!?!?!?!!!!), but I've seen pictures, and these are my opinions: Wormtongue: Ehh, I'll live. Kind of imagined him as a little less...umm...creepy looking, though. I don't think that the character's appearance should reflect the character's...character so much. It gives away the cahracter's intention. Even though I'm aware they're just trying to make it a little easier to recognize the bad guys, if I were Theoden King, that guy would have been kicked out of my court in no time. Denethor: Mmm, he looks too young! He's got overall black hair and no beard (unless they re-shoot all of ROTK between now and its release), and he looks more like Wormtounge than Faramir or Boromir (might I add that Faramir and Boromir look so similar it's freaky, but that's GOOD!). They could have made him seem a little older...though he does look crazy enough to be Denethor. He's got this really freakish glare going on... Theoden: PERFECTO! Old, and yet, powerful and proud-looking! Wonderful! slaps PJ on the back in a friendly way GOOD JOB! Ya did something RIGHT for once! Eowyn: No complaints. Miranda Otto looks perfect. So sad, so desperate...I can see the torment in her face that must have been on Eowyn's wipes away a rare tear Wonderful. I can only hope, for her own personal safety, that she represents Eowyn well. Eomer: WHY WON'T HE TAKE HIS STUPID HELM OFF SO I CAN SEE THAT GORGEOUS ROHIRRIM FACE OF HIS????!!!! bawls __________________ 'Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harevest and the tall corn growing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?' -Lament of the Rohirrim, II 132-33 ~CARPE DIEM!~

06-22-2002, 09:04 PM	#11
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	I thought that Theoden was Denethor for quite a while, and STILL think Denetor and Theoden should swap characters.(Yes, I know I just said that.....) Faramir: I don't know. He looks slightly odd to me, not in a bad way though. Eowen:YES!!!!!! She is perfect! And I actually look like her!(a bit ) __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!