Relativity of Good and Evil

Tulkas2002 · 04-14-2002, 02:46 AM

Do you think that good and evil are shaped soley by a persons own perspective relative only to his/her circumstances or do you believe that there is an absolute good and evil that is unchanging.

An arguement that good and evil are changeable according to circumstances and upbringing would be a war between two countries where each countrys citizens believe that their country is good while the enemy is evil - its all relative to the situation.

feel free to post your opinion in response - wave

Andúril · 04-14-2002, 05:18 AM

Could you perhaps define good and evil?

BeardofPants · 04-14-2002, 05:19 AM

Easy, I am good, you are evil. Nyuck nyuck nyuck...

FrodoFriend · 04-14-2002, 12:59 PM

I sense another bitter debate with Wayfarer coming on . . .

Well, Tulkas, I believe good and evil are completely relative, because they are not physically real - they only exist in our heads.

For further explanation, look up the old "Relative vs. Absolutism" debate in this forum.

afro-elf · 04-14-2002, 01:15 PM

Well i'm GABE

good at being evil

So I preach both

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GEVIL

it is

just noticed the vile is an anagram for evil

Elfmaster XK · 04-14-2002, 03:07 PM

Is it also coincidence that evil backwards spells live?

Khadrane · 04-14-2002, 04:04 PM

Good and evil are absolute. They never change. That's my opinion.

emplynx · 04-14-2002, 04:36 PM

This is about to be closed. NOW

BeardofPants · 04-14-2002, 05:33 PM

Oh, Emplynx, don't be such an evil party pooper...

It's all perception. A human perception placed upon the environment, to make sense of the world.

MasterMothra · 04-15-2002, 01:28 AM

i think tulkas has asked a valid question, no need to close the topic.
anyways, i think good and evil are absolute. but their interpretation by imperfect humans will always be debatable.

FrodoFriend · 04-15-2002, 01:32 AM

This from some one whose signature proclaims "Sauron is god."

MasterMothra · 04-15-2002, 01:42 AM

hehehe,
there can be no light without dark!

Andúril · 04-15-2002, 04:36 AM

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Good and evil are absolute. They never change. That's my opinion.

...and...

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...anyways, i think good and evil are absolute.

A cannibal thinks killing a person to eat his flesh is good, while a non-cannibal thinks killing a person to eat his flesh is not good. Relative.

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...but their interpretation by imperfect humans will always be debatable.

What do you base your theory on?

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there can be no light without dark!

There can. Take the meddling of lights from the Lamps. Go closer toward the lamps, and you get more concentrated light, further away and you get less light, but no dark.

Darth Tater · 04-15-2002, 09:46 AM

PADLOCK!

04-14-2002, 02:46 AM	#1
Tulkas2002 Sapling Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Old Forest Posts: 11	Relativity of Good and Evil Do you think that good and evil are shaped soley by a persons own perspective relative only to his/her circumstances or do you believe that there is an absolute good and evil that is unchanging. An arguement that good and evil are changeable according to circumstances and upbringing would be a war between two countries where each countrys citizens believe that their country is good while the enemy is evil - its all relative to the situation. feel free to post your opinion in response - wave __________________ For not we but those who come after will make the legends of our time. The green earth, say you? That is a mighty matter of legend, though you tread it under the light of day!

04-14-2002, 05:19 AM	#3
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Easy, I am good, you are evil. Nyuck nyuck nyuck... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

04-14-2002, 12:59 PM	#4
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	I sense another bitter debate with Wayfarer coming on . . . Well, Tulkas, I believe good and evil are completely relative, because they are not physically real - they only exist in our heads. For further explanation, look up the old "Relative vs. Absolutism" debate in this forum. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

04-14-2002, 03:07 PM	#6
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	Is it also coincidence that evil backwards spells live? __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

04-14-2002, 04:04 PM	#7
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	Good and evil are absolute. They never change. That's my opinion. __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

04-14-2002, 05:18 AM	#2
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Could you perhaps define good and evil?

04-14-2002, 04:36 PM	#8
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	This is about to be closed. NOW

04-14-2002, 05:33 PM	#9
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Oh, Emplynx, don't be such an evil party pooper... It's all perception. A human perception placed upon the environment, to make sense of the world. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

04-15-2002, 01:28 AM	#10
MasterMothra Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: utumno and angband Posts: 241	i think tulkas has asked a valid question, no need to close the topic. anyways, i think good and evil are absolute. but their interpretation by imperfect humans will always be debatable. __________________ "........and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they."- sauron talking to ar pharazon.

04-15-2002, 01:32 AM	#11
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	This from some one whose signature proclaims "Sauron is god." __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

04-15-2002, 01:42 AM	#12
MasterMothra Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: utumno and angband Posts: 241	hehehe, there can be no light without dark! __________________ "........and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they."- sauron talking to ar pharazon.

04-15-2002, 09:46 AM	#14
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