probably a stupid question....

arenya · 04-11-2002, 03:45 PM

while looking at some pictures from the tolkienmovies.com site, I happened upon one titled "sam & elanor". I'm assuming that no pictures from RotK have been released yet, so how could sam have a kid? He doesnt marry rosie until RotK, and has elanor afterwards. Does anyone know why they would post this picture, unless it really is from RotK? (yes, i know they're not doing the scouring of the shire...grrrrrr) Or does anyone know if in PJ's version of LotR that sam gets married and has a kid BEFORE he leaves with frodo? And if so, is this in the DVD release?

Comic Book Guy · 04-11-2002, 05:07 PM

Are you sure it's not a picture of Sean Astin and his daughter? They play the same corrosponding roles.

StrawberryIcecream · 04-11-2002, 05:23 PM

really??? Elanor is sean's son??? wow!!!

Halley_Brandybuck · 04-11-2002, 06:30 PM

some pics from ROTK have been "leaked" and yeah, elanor is played by Sean Astin's real daughter... isn't that cute?

Elf Girl · 04-11-2002, 06:44 PM

It makes sense...they would look similer, athe way a father and daughter look.

Michael Martinez · 04-11-2002, 09:23 PM

Sam does not marry Rosie until the third movie (and there are no guarantees they can fit all the final Sam/Rosie stuff into the movie). They were able to post a picture because the filming was not done in proper sequence. All the Shire scenes were filmed first, and then the Shire sets were destroyed (at least, the outdoor sets were).

arenya · 04-12-2002, 05:55 PM

thank you michael martinez! i tink it's really neat that elanor is played by astin's real daughter. does anyone know for sure how much of the "ending" of the book they're going to put in since there is no scouring of the shire?

Tar-Elendil · 04-12-2002, 07:10 PM

anyone know if theyre gonna show the later events of the fellowship, like gimli and legolas building a ship and going into the west

samwise of the shire · 04-13-2002, 05:56 PM

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Elanor is sean's son

Umm correction Elanor is sean's DAUGHTER Alexandria and she is ABSOLUTLEY ADORABLE! She is SOOOO CUTE! Ohhhhh*squeaks* Check on the one ring website and find ALEXANDRIA ASTIN. SHe is too adorable for words. And I think that those pictures show that there is a Scouring. The background for one, Frodo sees the Shire being destroyed in FOTR so that must mean they set things to right abouts and Sam is coming home alone so that must mean there is a Grey Havens scene. How touching. I think that is the sweetest picture. Ohhhhhhhh
Sam

Arathorn · 04-13-2002, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Tar-Elendil
anyone know if theyre gonna show the later events of the fellowship, like gimli and legolas building a ship and going into the west

Seeing as the "I'm back." line looks good as an ending, I wouldn't mind showing short scenes of "Legolas and Gimli building the ship" in a box while the credits roll in.

Legolas_BowKing · 04-19-2002, 08:07 AM

your right a stupid question

Tar-Elendil · 04-22-2002, 07:12 PM

lol..or atleast show pictures of the cast with words under em like
Sam
The humble servant became mayor of the Shire for 7times in a row before crossing the Sea into the uttermost West in the year 1482 as last of the ring-bearers..
on second thought naaah..toooo cheezy

Elfhelm · 04-22-2002, 07:59 PM

Even though they won't scour the shire, it's likely they will have the departure from the Grey Havens, and Samwise might return home for his classic last line. They can make a year go by in a few minutes in film.

I just hope they make it clear that Sam is the hero of the story. In the first one he seems like your average sidekick. But I just keep hoping...

samwise of the shire · 04-22-2002, 11:49 PM

Elfhelm, in the Fellowship Of The Ring(books) Sam IS an avarage sidekick. It's only in TTT that he shows his true colors and how wonderful he is. And I think they WILL show that. How the characters go through changes. Elijah Wood had a problem with going into the "Frodo under the Rings influence" change. Merry and Pippin start smarting up(Billy Boyd talks about how to be a little fair to them they start maturing as the films go on an' all), so I have no doubt that Sam will become the truely maginficent character he is.
Sam

Varda Oiolosseo · 04-25-2002, 07:03 AM

I think that Sam will turn into a great charachter too!

Ërendil · 04-27-2002, 04:23 PM

I dont THINK that Sam will become a good character Varda- i KNOW he will be!!

Elf Girl · 04-28-2002, 01:54 PM

I think Sam will become heroic, because they need it for The Coices of Master Samwise.

04-11-2002, 03:45 PM	#1
arenya Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA, but i wish i lived in Rivendell Posts: 17	probably a stupid question.... while looking at some pictures from the tolkienmovies.com site, I happened upon one titled "sam & elanor". I'm assuming that no pictures from RotK have been released yet, so how could sam have a kid? He doesnt marry rosie until RotK, and has elanor afterwards. Does anyone know why they would post this picture, unless it really is from RotK? (yes, i know they're not doing the scouring of the shire...grrrrrr) Or does anyone know if in PJ's version of LotR that sam gets married and has a kid BEFORE he leaves with frodo? And if so, is this in the DVD release? __________________ "By Elbereth and Luthien the Fair," said Frodo with a last effort, lifting up his sword, "you shall have neither the Ring nor me!" "I sit beside the fire and think/of people long ago,/ and people who will see a world/ that I shall never know./ But all the while I sit and think/of times there were before,/ I listen for returning feet/ and voices at the door." -Bilbo

04-11-2002, 05:23 PM	#3
StrawberryIcecream Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In my jeans Posts: 915	really??? Elanor is sean's son??? wow!!! __________________ www.foolofatook.com for all you pippin's out there.

04-11-2002, 06:30 PM	#4
Halley_Brandybuck Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Griffith IN Posts: 136	some pics from ROTK have been "leaked" and yeah, elanor is played by Sean Astin's real daughter... isn't that cute? __________________ ~in Halley Brandybuck's hobbitish opinion I am in search of an MPEG version of the trailer... if anyone finds one, let me know! Do not meddle in the affairs of females for they are PMS-ing and quick to batter. "He fears you Aragorn, and what you may become" Two Towers in 6 months!

04-11-2002, 06:44 PM	#5
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	It makes sense...they would look similer, athe way a father and daughter look. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-11-2002, 09:23 PM	#6
Michael Martinez Elven Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 892	Sam does not marry Rosie until the third movie (and there are no guarantees they can fit all the final Sam/Rosie stuff into the movie). They were able to post a picture because the filming was not done in proper sequence. All the Shire scenes were filmed first, and then the Shire sets were destroyed (at least, the outdoor sets were). __________________ http://www.xenite.org/faqs/lotr_movie/ http://www.michael-martinez.com/ http://www.merp.com/essays/MichaelMartinez/

04-11-2002, 05:07 PM	#2
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Are you sure it's not a picture of Sean Astin and his daughter? They play the same corrosponding roles.

04-12-2002, 05:55 PM	#7
arenya Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA, but i wish i lived in Rivendell Posts: 17	thank you michael martinez! i tink it's really neat that elanor is played by astin's real daughter. does anyone know for sure how much of the "ending" of the book they're going to put in since there is no scouring of the shire? __________________ "By Elbereth and Luthien the Fair," said Frodo with a last effort, lifting up his sword, "you shall have neither the Ring nor me!" "I sit beside the fire and think/of people long ago,/ and people who will see a world/ that I shall never know./ But all the while I sit and think/of times there were before,/ I listen for returning feet/ and voices at the door." -Bilbo

04-12-2002, 07:10 PM	#8
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	anyone know if theyre gonna show the later events of the fellowship, like gimli and legolas building a ship and going into the west __________________ Why can we not be sober..

04-19-2002, 08:07 AM	#11
Legolas_BowKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 115	your right a stupid question

04-22-2002, 07:12 PM	#12
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	lol..or atleast show pictures of the cast with words under em like Sam The humble servant became mayor of the Shire for 7times in a row before crossing the Sea into the uttermost West in the year 1482 as last of the ring-bearers.. on second thought naaah..toooo cheezy __________________ Why can we not be sober..

04-22-2002, 07:59 PM	#13
Elfhelm Marshal of the Eastmark Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,412	Even though they won't scour the shire, it's likely they will have the departure from the Grey Havens, and Samwise might return home for his classic last line. They can make a year go by in a few minutes in film. I just hope they make it clear that Sam is the hero of the story. In the first one he seems like your average sidekick. But I just keep hoping... __________________ cya

04-22-2002, 11:49 PM	#14
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Elfhelm, in the Fellowship Of The Ring(books) Sam IS an avarage sidekick. It's only in TTT that he shows his true colors and how wonderful he is. And I think they WILL show that. How the characters go through changes. Elijah Wood had a problem with going into the "Frodo under the Rings influence" change. Merry and Pippin start smarting up(Billy Boyd talks about how to be a little fair to them they start maturing as the films go on an' all), so I have no doubt that Sam will become the truely maginficent character he is. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

04-25-2002, 07:03 AM	#15
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	I think that Sam will turn into a great charachter too!

04-27-2002, 04:23 PM	#16
Ërendil Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 389	I dont THINK that Sam will become a good character Varda- i KNOW he will be!! __________________ "You're one of the Abaharaki, oh I had forgotten. Look at me, I am completly drenched! I do hate the rain, it makes me so depressed..." "Hehehehe, moeru moeru!" "That's it, set it all on fire; we're gonna smoke out Escaflowne!" "Oh, I hit the wrong target... never mind that creature was useless to us anyway. Our orders were to get the girl? So he isn't our concern, we don't need him!" ^_^ Isn't Dilandau just fantastic? You just have to love the insane, murderous pyro :-D

04-28-2002, 01:54 PM	#17
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I think Sam will become heroic, because they need it for The Coices of Master Samwise. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

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