Half Elves.

Aragollwen · 04-08-2002, 02:27 AM

I'm in a little Trivia Contest with a friend of mine, and we've been giving each other questions for a while. The first to answer one wrong loses.
Anyway, the latest question stumped me: Name four half elves.

I've already thought of Elrond and Lúthien, but I nead two more. Any ideas?

***Earniel*** · 04-08-2002, 04:00 AM

How about Elwing, Eärendil and Doir?

Aragollwen · 04-08-2002, 04:02 AM

*stares at post*
*checks Sillmarillion*
*goes to e-mail*

***Earniel*** · 04-08-2002, 04:49 AM

Mmm, that should have been Dior...

afro-elf · 04-08-2002, 07:35 AM

gilmith and galador

the children of Imrazor and mithrellas

Dwarven Sen · 04-08-2002, 07:43 AM

Elros
now i'm stuck

Finrod Felagund · 04-08-2002, 02:20 PM

Luthien wasn't a half elf.
OK.
Elros, Elrond, Dior, Elwing, Earendil,

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 04-08-2002, 03:22 PM

Afro Elf - I believe the story of Imrazor and Mithrellas is somewhat apocryphal. I'm not sure if it's "official." Anybody know for sure?

Elf Girl · 04-08-2002, 03:32 PM

Luthien was a half-elf. Just not in the traditional sense. She was half elf, half Maia.

Andúril · 04-08-2002, 03:41 PM

If knowledge serves, Elrond and Elros where the first beings to be given half-elven classification...

Ñólendil · 04-08-2002, 05:42 PM

Actually Dior, son of Beren and Lúthien, is considered the first.

Four Half-elves: Dior, Eärendil, Elrond and Elros.

There is also Elwing, and you might also be able to count Arwen, Elros and Elrohir.

afro-elf · 04-08-2002, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Foul_Dwimmerlaik
Afro Elf - I believe the story of Imrazor and Mithrellas is somewhat apocryphal. I'm not sure if it's "official." Anybody know for sure?

hmm the ghost of what is cannon and not cannon

it would fit with the events of the LOTR when legolas and imrahil first met

so that does lend it considerable weight in my book

hopefully bropous is not around with his gladius iberian non-canonus assualtus con afro-elfus

Michael Martinez · 04-08-2002, 08:47 PM

Dior was definitely the first half-elf. All the named Half-elves are:

Dior
Elured
Elurin
Elwing
Earendil
Elrond
Elros
Gilmith
Galador

There is disagreement over whether Elrond's children were Half-elves. On the one hand, Boromir says his father told him and Faramir that Rivendel was the home of "Elrond and Half-elven". On the other hand, Elrond's children were granted the life of the Eldar. Half-elves were mortal.

Elrond and Elros were unique among the Half-elven, because they alone did not have a full Elven parent. Dior was born to Luthien after she had been restored to life as a mortal, but it appears that he would have been born mortal anyway (if she had borne him while she was still an Elf).

Michael Martinez · 04-08-2002, 08:49 PM

To be apocryphal, a work would have to be of questionable authorship or origin. The tale of Imrazor the Numenorean and Mithrellas is not apocryphal.

Ñólendil · 04-08-2002, 11:50 PM

I think I have conclusive proof that Arwen was a Half-elf. From Letter 345:

Quote:

Arwen was not an elf, but one of the half-elven who abandoned her elvish rights.

Michael Martinez · 04-08-2002, 11:58 PM

And then there is that letter, which comes up every now and then.

The White Rider · 04-11-2002, 11:57 AM

Nolendil, if you look at Letter 345 closely, it says

Quote:

one of the half-elven

Elrond, who was Arwen's father, was considered as The Half-Elven.

Ñólendil · 04-12-2002, 12:45 AM

I'm afraid I don't see your point.

Loren · 04-13-2002, 02:46 PM

um.. hi a what exactly is a half elf???

FrodoFriend · 04-13-2002, 02:53 PM

An Elf with one human and one elven parent, usually.

04-08-2002, 02:27 AM	#1
Aragollwen Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Physically? North Cali. Mentally? Middle-Earth (duh) Posts: 10	Half Elves. I'm in a little Trivia Contest with a friend of mine, and we've been giving each other questions for a while. The first to answer one wrong loses. Anyway, the latest question stumped me: Name four half elves. I've already thought of Elrond and Lúthien, but I nead two more. Any ideas?

04-08-2002, 04:00 AM	#2
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04-08-2002, 05:42 PM	#11
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Actually Dior, son of Beren and Lúthien, is considered the first. Four Half-elves: Dior, Eärendil, Elrond and Elros. There is also Elwing, and you might also be able to count Arwen, Elros and Elrohir. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

04-08-2002, 08:47 PM	#13
Michael Martinez Elven Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 892	Dior was definitely the first half-elf. All the named Half-elves are: Dior Elured Elurin Elwing Earendil Elrond Elros Gilmith Galador There is disagreement over whether Elrond's children were Half-elves. On the one hand, Boromir says his father told him and Faramir that Rivendel was the home of "Elrond and Half-elven". On the other hand, Elrond's children were granted the life of the Eldar. Half-elves were mortal. Elrond and Elros were unique among the Half-elven, because they alone did not have a full Elven parent. Dior was born to Luthien after she had been restored to life as a mortal, but it appears that he would have been born mortal anyway (if she had borne him while she was still an Elf). __________________ http://www.xenite.org/faqs/lotr_movie/ http://www.michael-martinez.com/ http://www.merp.com/essays/MichaelMartinez/

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