True Hero

RosieCotton · 02-28-2002, 03:39 PM

Who do you think is the true hero of Lord of the Rings?
Why?

Earenya · 02-28-2002, 04:23 PM

What a good discussion question!
I dont believe there is only 1 true hero. Because, when it all came down to it, everyone needed someone. 'The Fellowship' really was a fellowship- an interdependent, coworking group that would've been fruitless unless they worked in union.
In the end, Frodo needed Sam to get him to Mount Doom, and vice-versa... but even Frodo was unable to fight the Ring; he succumbed to it. Thus needing Gollum to wrench it from him- and though Gollum was the possesor when it was destroyed, he did not destroy it of his own accord. Gollum needed that Ring. The Ring distroys itself almost- the fact that it causes so much desire in he who holds it, that desirous passion destroyed the ring.
Aragorn could not have won the battle on his own- even Gandalf needed the deus ex machina of the Eagle to escape Saruman's grasp- However, his fight with the Balrog (wings or no

) proves how incredibly strong he is... but would he have been able to destroy the Ring? Probably not.
Im anxious to see how this thread will continue! Good thought RosieCotton!

noldorlord · 02-28-2002, 04:50 PM

from the point of view of a normal run of the mill person, Sam would be the hero, as he is as close to the everyday joe you and me are. He gets tangled up in all of it and helps Frodo to do his task. He is different to Frodo because Frodo has the ring which is a great weight upon him and not many people are like this. Sam promotes responsibility, bravery, loyalty, friendship, and kindness which are all excellent and heroic characteristics.

Aragorn is the more classical hero, last in the line of kings, magic sword, saviour of mankind, sort of chap. Boromir is more of a tragic hero because he is temped too much by the ring, but realises his folly too late.

I think that the mortal peoples in lord of the rings are more heroic than the immortals, apart from Gandalf and other major elven characters. Mortality is a great sign of heroism because they know they can die but do not fear that fact.

phew, long rant there

eowyn144 · 02-28-2002, 05:21 PM

i agree mainly with noldorlord. there are many heroes in the books but my favourite is definetly sam.

Earenya · 02-28-2002, 05:36 PM

ahh, I like that. It makes sense- of everyone, Sam is the one who exhibits loyalty and bravery and friendship. And he is true to the end. I love the idea of Boromir being the tragic hero- his downfall is his weakness. But in a way I suppose it depends upon one's idea of the word "hero". As I was saying before, none of the Fellowship could've acted alone.

aldesign · 02-28-2002, 06:23 PM

Sam,
hes the real hero

Frodo may have carrier the ring
but SAM CARRIED FRODO (mentaly, and physicaly)

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Comic Book Guy · 02-28-2002, 06:36 PM

There are a few other topics that discuss who was the hero of Lord of the Rings, you can find them here and here.

02-28-2002, 03:39 PM	#1
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	True Hero Who do you think is the true hero of Lord of the Rings? Why? __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

02-28-2002, 04:23 PM	#2
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	What a good discussion question! I dont believe there is only 1 true hero. Because, when it all came down to it, everyone needed someone. 'The Fellowship' really was a fellowship- an interdependent, coworking group that would've been fruitless unless they worked in union. In the end, Frodo needed Sam to get him to Mount Doom, and vice-versa... but even Frodo was unable to fight the Ring; he succumbed to it. Thus needing Gollum to wrench it from him- and though Gollum was the possesor when it was destroyed, he did not destroy it of his own accord. Gollum needed that Ring. The Ring distroys itself almost- the fact that it causes so much desire in he who holds it, that desirous passion destroyed the ring. Aragorn could not have won the battle on his own- even Gandalf needed the deus ex machina of the Eagle to escape Saruman's grasp- However, his fight with the Balrog (wings or no ) proves how incredibly strong he is... but would he have been able to destroy the Ring? Probably not. Im anxious to see how this thread will continue! Good thought RosieCotton! __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

02-28-2002, 04:50 PM	#3
noldorlord Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: derbyshire, england Posts: 42	from the point of view of a normal run of the mill person, Sam would be the hero, as he is as close to the everyday joe you and me are. He gets tangled up in all of it and helps Frodo to do his task. He is different to Frodo because Frodo has the ring which is a great weight upon him and not many people are like this. Sam promotes responsibility, bravery, loyalty, friendship, and kindness which are all excellent and heroic characteristics. Aragorn is the more classical hero, last in the line of kings, magic sword, saviour of mankind, sort of chap. Boromir is more of a tragic hero because he is temped too much by the ring, but realises his folly too late. I think that the mortal peoples in lord of the rings are more heroic than the immortals, apart from Gandalf and other major elven characters. Mortality is a great sign of heroism because they know they can die but do not fear that fact. phew, long rant there __________________ "fly you fools" - Gandalf

02-28-2002, 05:21 PM	#4
eowyn144 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 435	i agree mainly with noldorlord. there are many heroes in the books but my favourite is definetly sam. __________________ If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe

02-28-2002, 05:36 PM	#5
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	ahh, I like that. It makes sense- of everyone, Sam is the one who exhibits loyalty and bravery and friendship. And he is true to the end. I love the idea of Boromir being the tragic hero- his downfall is his weakness. But in a way I suppose it depends upon one's idea of the word "hero". As I was saying before, none of the Fellowship could've acted alone. __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

02-28-2002, 06:23 PM	#6
aldesign Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Uk Posts: 447	Sam, hes the real hero Frodo may have carrier the ring but SAM CARRIED FRODO (mentaly, and physicaly) GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! GO SAM! __________________ The funniest story on the net, made by entmoot fanatics, visit it @ FOTMB.com FRODO LIVES!! GET FREE AVATARS HERE!

02-28-2002, 06:36 PM	#7
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	There are a few other topics that discuss who was the hero of Lord of the Rings, you can find them here and here.

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