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The Silmarils
At any point in the Silmarillion did it actually describe what the Silmarils looked like? If so, then I missed it; what do they look like? Otherwise, what have you guys envisioned them as?
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Doesn't elaborate on their appearance... I always thought of them as about grapefruit-size, one side having a more pointed end and luminous. Rather cloudy on the inside, but otherwise translucent.
I also considered one to be silver-ish after Telperion and one yellow/gold-ish after the other. The other one, kind of a mixture or red-ish just to balance. Of course, that's just me. What does everyone else think they look like? I can't remember any detailed description, either.
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From the Silmarillion
Chapter 7 Of The Silmarils And The Unrest Of The Noldor Quote:
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I always imagined them like smooth and handsized. A little like the form of a round drop of water on a flat surface. Made in transparant glass or crystal. And a bright light within them, white mostly but with a bit of rainbow on the edges.
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thats a beautiful description Earniel. truly beautiful.
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The Silmarils couldn't have been very large to have been worn on the forehead.
"... for though at great feasts Feanor would wear them, blazing on his brow..." And concerning the voyage of Earendil: "He stood now most often at the prow of Vingilot, and the Silmaril was bound upon his brow". |
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Morgoth also wore the Silmarilli in his crown. Tolkien says in the Road Goes Ever On that the Valar when they assumed humane forms were "majestic but not gigantic". Still, Morgoth was very large. I suppose that doesn't mean much, but it is something to think about.
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Think also of Beren. He shut a Silmaril in his Hand. Beren was also large siced and broad but I don't think he could cover much mor than say a tennis-ball.
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Any chance that they can change in size like the One Ring to match the purposes of the bearer?
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"Beren was also large siced and broad but I don't think he could cover much mor than say a tennis-ball. "
I think it is in an essay called Of Dwarves and Men that Tolkien said Beren was shorter than the norm, because of his Haladinian heritage.
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Okay, okay... maybe a grapefruit is too large... let's say a normal orange. I reckon that's about the right size (Why do I keep using fruit to describe my idea of their size? Your guess is as good as mine).
I think a golf ball is a bit too small, at least in my mind. Of course, it's all a matter of opinion...
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Well, Ñólendil, the place was very good, but what was said we both remembered in an strange way
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Baccus, I was not thinking of Hurin, and I don't think my garble is influenced by him, but you're right, it is garbled.
I must have read the note incorrectly. For "taller" my mind remembers "shorter" for some reason. I thought the quote said he was shorter because of his Haladinian heritage, but he was actually taller because of his Hadorian blood. Thanks for correcting me Findegil. I thought "shorter" would make sense because Tolkien himself was not a tall man (I believe he was 5'8). Tolkien was blonde as a child and eventually got dark hair. But I wonder if he had grey eyes, like Beren?
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That's why I was surprized to learn Beren was so tall. Tolkien was 5'8.
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Wishful thinking perhaps....
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It might be to near a resembling you are asking for. Tolkien also never held a Silmaril in his hand, and his wife was not able to bring her hair to grow much faster by a spell. They only found together after a some fight against authority. But it was his warden that denied the union and not her parents.
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