Recoverability of Ringil

Twilight · 02-05-2002, 10:22 PM

It wouldn't be very easy, but I wonder if it would be possible for somebody to find Fingolfin's final resting place and to take Ringil. I know Fingolfins body was carried off by eagles after he died, but I think the final resting spot was still on middle earth. Ringil created permanent wounds on Morgoth, so think of what it could have done to Sauron. It would take somebody really good to use Ringil, but there were still elves in the second age capable of doing so.

Wayfarer · 02-05-2002, 10:45 PM

Twilight · 02-05-2002, 11:23 PM

If you are going to be doing a lot of fighting, then you want the best weapon possible. Ringil would be a very good weapon of choice for fighting against Balrogs, Sauron, or whatever else you wanted.

FrodoFriend · 02-06-2002, 02:12 AM

Fighting Balrogs? Make love, not war! Eh, Wayfarer?

afro-elf · 02-06-2002, 02:16 AM

Twilight is there a RPG in you begging to get out?

Twilight · 02-06-2002, 09:06 AM

I don't think it would be very good for an RPG. It is best not to let characters get hold of powerful weapons like that. I am just wondering if it would be possible, and how it could affect the story line if it did happen/

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 02-06-2002, 11:26 AM

IIRC, when Fingolfin was killed, Thorondor retrieved his body and took it I believe to Turgon, and he was burried somewhere in Gondolin. Not positive though.

Wayfarer · 02-06-2002, 04:13 PM

Well... that's sort of a waste of time, considering ringil wouldn't do any more damage than other noldorin swords. All thier weapons were enchanted to glow when in the presence of evil creatures, and were very effective against otherwise hard to damage enemies.

But no, you're not going to get it, and it wouldn't do you much good if you did. The power was in fingolfin, not in Ringil.

your best bet would be to find a good elven smith and have them forge one for you.

***Earniel*** · 02-08-2002, 02:16 PM

Funny you mentioned this Twilight, I once read a fan fiction story dealing with Ringil after the death of Fingolfin.

But thinking on your question of wether I would be possible to find Ringil I think if anyone wanted that sword he should have gone after it pretty quick. After Melkor was defeated the lands changed and I believe that would mean that Fingolfin's tomb would be submerged to. And I don't think underwater archeology existed in Middle-Earth

TinuvielChild · 02-28-2002, 12:15 AM

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some of you may be going 'huh?'...play angband and enjoy killing morgoth! (that's the object of the game, get to level 100 of the dungeon and kill morgoth)

02-05-2002, 10:22 PM	#1
Twilight Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmore, KY Posts: 269	Recoverability of Ringil It wouldn't be very easy, but I wonder if it would be possible for somebody to find Fingolfin's final resting place and to take Ringil. I know Fingolfins body was carried off by eagles after he died, but I think the final resting spot was still on middle earth. Ringil created permanent wounds on Morgoth, so think of what it could have done to Sauron. It would take somebody really good to use Ringil, but there were still elves in the second age capable of doing so. __________________ Sometimes I wonder how many monkeys with typewritters it would take to reproduce what I just wrote.

02-05-2002, 10:45 PM	#2
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Why? __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-05-2002, 11:23 PM	#3
Twilight Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmore, KY Posts: 269	If you are going to be doing a lot of fighting, then you want the best weapon possible. Ringil would be a very good weapon of choice for fighting against Balrogs, Sauron, or whatever else you wanted. __________________ Sometimes I wonder how many monkeys with typewritters it would take to reproduce what I just wrote.

02-06-2002, 02:12 AM	#4
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Fighting Balrogs? Make love, not war! Eh, Wayfarer? __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-06-2002, 02:16 AM	#5
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Twilight is there a RPG in you begging to get out? __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

02-06-2002, 09:06 AM	#6
Twilight Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmore, KY Posts: 269	I don't think it would be very good for an RPG. It is best not to let characters get hold of powerful weapons like that. I am just wondering if it would be possible, and how it could affect the story line if it did happen/ __________________ Sometimes I wonder how many monkeys with typewritters it would take to reproduce what I just wrote.

02-06-2002, 11:26 AM	#7
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	IIRC, when Fingolfin was killed, Thorondor retrieved his body and took it I believe to Turgon, and he was burried somewhere in Gondolin. Not positive though.

02-06-2002, 04:13 PM	#8
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Well... that's sort of a waste of time, considering ringil wouldn't do any more damage than other noldorin swords. All thier weapons were enchanted to glow when in the presence of evil creatures, and were very effective against otherwise hard to damage enemies. But no, you're not going to get it, and it wouldn't do you much good if you did. The power was in fingolfin, not in Ringil. your best bet would be to find a good elven smith and have them forge one for you. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-08-2002, 02:16 PM	#9
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Funny you mentioned this Twilight, I once read a fan fiction story dealing with Ringil after the death of Fingolfin. But thinking on your question of wether I would be possible to find Ringil I think if anyone wanted that sword he should have gone after it pretty quick. After Melkor was defeated the lands changed and I believe that would mean that Fingolfin's tomb would be submerged to. And I don't think underwater archeology existed in Middle-Earth

02-28-2002, 12:15 AM	#10
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	for people who enjoy discussing the upsides and downsides of various weapons in middle-earth: visit http://thangorodrim.angband.org and download the best roleplaying game ever, based on tolkien. it's called angband, and you can actually wield ringil! i am an official Angband Addict, and i am wielding: Narya, Nenya, the Phial of Galadriel, the Set of Cesti of Fingolfin....etc... some of you may be going 'huh?'...play angband and enjoy killing morgoth! (that's the object of the game, get to level 100 of the dungeon and kill morgoth) __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!