Gwaihil the Windlord...

Radagast · 01-26-2002, 06:49 AM

During Gandalf's 'imprisonment' in Orthanc, he is saved by an eagle called Gwaihil the Windlord. The text runs something like this:- 'Gandalf! Forever doomed I am to carry you as a burden!'

This implies that he's carried Gandalf before. I was just wondering is this the same eagle that saved Gandalf, Thorin and Company from the incident with the Wargs in The Hobbit?

Lightice · 01-26-2002, 07:52 AM

Gwahir the Windlord (it's r, not l) was indeed same Lord of Eagles, who appeared in Hobbit. And yes, he has carried Gandalf before. I guess, that he has carried him many times not mentioned anywhere.
In Silmarillion, there are Eagles of Manwë, whose descendants the Great Eagles seem to be.

Comic Book Guy · 01-26-2002, 11:01 AM

Yes, Gwalir the Windlord was the Eagle that rescues Gandalf from the Tower of Orthanc, when it carried Gandalf to Mount Doom it says that it he shall have carried Gandalf thrice.

Nazgûl Queen · 01-27-2002, 03:21 AM

It does indeed say that he shall have carried gandalf thrice at Mt Doom...
He carried him from Orthanc, then he carried him to lothlorien after the battle with the Balrog, then he carried him to Mordor to find frodo.

I dont think he carried Gandalf in the hobbit - he was the king and he sent his 15 chieftans to carry gandalf, bilbo and the 13 dwarves....

Correct me if I'm wrong

***Earniel*** · 01-27-2002, 12:53 PM

Seems like he was carrying that wizard around quite often. Lucky for Gandalf that Gwaihir didn't charge him for all that transporting!

EdBlackadder · 01-27-2002, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Nazgûl Queen
It does indeed say that he shall have carried gandalf thrice at Mt Doom...
He carried him from Orthanc, then he carried him to lothlorien after the battle with the Balrog, then he carried him to Mordor to find frodo.

I dont think he carried Gandalf in the hobbit - he was the king and he sent his 15 chieftans to carry gandalf, bilbo and the 13 dwarves....

Correct me if I'm wrong

If i'm right (although i can't find the ref i'm looking for), Gwaihir was the successor to the 'throne' of the King of the Eagles from the Hobbit. He was also one of the Eagles who was chraged with carrying Thorin and company.

01-26-2002, 06:49 AM	#1
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	Gwaihil the Windlord... During Gandalf's 'imprisonment' in Orthanc, he is saved by an eagle called Gwaihil the Windlord. The text runs something like this:- 'Gandalf! Forever doomed I am to carry you as a burden!' This implies that he's carried Gandalf before. I was just wondering is this the same eagle that saved Gandalf, Thorin and Company from the incident with the Wargs in The Hobbit? __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought. Last edited by Radagast : 08-05-2004 at 11:19 AM.

01-27-2002, 03:21 AM	#4
Nazgûl Queen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 400	It does indeed say that he shall have carried gandalf thrice at Mt Doom... He carried him from Orthanc, then he carried him to lothlorien after the battle with the Balrog, then he carried him to Mordor to find frodo. I dont think he carried Gandalf in the hobbit - he was the king and he sent his 15 chieftans to carry gandalf, bilbo and the 13 dwarves.... Correct me if I'm wrong __________________ Morauko Umrien, Queen of the Nazgûl and Lady of Mordor Mistress of the Night The Nazgûl Queen she was, the Ringwraith, the enemy's most terrible servant; darkness went with her and she cried with the voices of death. Can be found loitering at Fantasy Essentials or her livejournal...

01-26-2002, 07:52 AM	#2
Lightice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 192	Gwahir the Windlord (it's r, not l) was indeed same Lord of Eagles, who appeared in Hobbit. And yes, he has carried Gandalf before. I guess, that he has carried him many times not mentioned anywhere. In Silmarillion, there are Eagles of Manwë, whose descendants the Great Eagles seem to be.

01-26-2002, 11:01 AM	#3
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Yes, Gwalir the Windlord was the Eagle that rescues Gandalf from the Tower of Orthanc, when it carried Gandalf to Mount Doom it says that it he shall have carried Gandalf thrice.

01-27-2002, 12:53 PM	#5
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Seems like he was carrying that wizard around quite often. Lucky for Gandalf that Gwaihir didn't charge him for all that transporting!