Wight names?

Kirinki54 · 01-02-2002, 05:55 PM

"The Barrow-wights we know by many names" said Elrond (The Council of Elrond, LotR).

Anyone know these names?

emplynx · 01-02-2002, 06:25 PM

nope. I have missed that quote... I am sure one of our resident scholors knows though.
i will go look in my Middle Earth encyclopedia....

emplynx · 01-02-2002, 09:53 PM

I have consulted my trusty The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth : From the Hobbit to the Silmarillion and it has no alternate names for the Barrow Wights. The Black Chasm also has no information on other names of these wights.

***IronParrot*** · 01-03-2002, 03:42 AM

Billy Wight, Sammy Wight, Robin Wight...

bropous · 01-03-2002, 01:02 PM

Well, I've heard at least three of them are known as "the Wight Brothers". Plus, one or two of the darker females of Middle Earth have claimed they have met "Mr. Wight"...

***IronParrot*** · 01-04-2002, 01:32 AM

I still sleep with a Night Wight...

Kirinki54 · 01-04-2002, 05:43 PM

I think some people treat this issue as very light wight...

emplynx · 01-04-2002, 06:00 PM

If I remember correctly, the extremely tired ones are burned out wights.

CardenIAntauraNauco · 01-05-2002, 12:47 AM

It Wight be a good idea to close it before the puns get worse.

bropous · 01-05-2002, 01:33 AM

Has anyone yet mentioned Gandalf the Wight? ;- )

CardenIAntauraNauco · 01-05-2002, 01:36 AM

I'll bet they wear wighty-tighty's

emplynx · 01-05-2002, 01:58 PM

Thier name is a funny thing, I always imagined them as black not wight...

FrodoFriend · 01-05-2002, 04:11 PM

According to Thomas Paine's "The Wights of Man", every wight has the wight to choose its own name.

emplynx · 01-05-2002, 04:17 PM

FrodoFriend, I believe that your are wight on that...

Kirinki54 · 01-05-2002, 06:33 PM

You know what guys?
You´re all a wight for sore eyes!!

emplynx · 01-05-2002, 07:19 PM

I am considering that Elrond wasn't Wight about the Wight's names.
Do you think that the Barrow-Wight's were left or wight handed?

FrodoFriend · 01-05-2002, 07:51 PM

I believe I speak wightly when I say that I doubt anyone has ever considered it before.
Maybe Elrond *was* mistaken. Why would anyone bother to make other wight names? After all, you know what they say: Out of wight, out of mind.

Wayfarer · 01-06-2002, 03:49 PM

Or maybe he meant different names in different languages.

I.E. Gandalf had 'many names in many tongues'

He could have said 'The Ringwraiths we know by many names' in which case he would have been referring to Ulairi, Nazgul, etc. That's likely what it is.

bropous · 01-06-2002, 11:46 PM

Well, now, if we're talking about names for the Nazgul/Ringewraiths, the only one really individualized is the head Nazgul, also known as the "Witch King of Angmar". Also, in the Silmarillion, three of the Nazgul/Ulari are said to be "great lords of Numenorean race".

As for the Barrow-Wights, no names are listed, only that they were evil spirits who had inhabited the Witch Kingdom of Angmar and invaded the barrows/crypts of the Kings and Lords of the Northern Kingdom, coming down from Angmar and Carn Dum.

Wayfarer · 01-07-2002, 08:28 PM

I was, uh, using the different names of he Ulairi as an example of how the wights could be 'known by many names'.

01-02-2002, 05:55 PM	#1
Kirinki54 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: European Union Posts: 463	Wight names? "The Barrow-wights we know by many names" said Elrond (The Council of Elrond, LotR). Anyone know these names? __________________ 'They need more gardens,' said Legolas. 'The houses are dead, and there is too little here that grows and is glad. If Aragorn comes into his own, the people of the Wood shall bring him birds that sing and trees that do not die.'

01-03-2002, 03:42 AM	#4
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01-03-2002, 01:02 PM	#5
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Well, I've heard at least three of them are known as "the Wight Brothers". Plus, one or two of the darker females of Middle Earth have claimed they have met "Mr. Wight"... __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

01-04-2002, 01:32 AM	#6
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	I still sleep with a Night Wight... __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

01-04-2002, 05:43 PM	#7
Kirinki54 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: European Union Posts: 463	I think some people treat this issue as very light wight... __________________ 'They need more gardens,' said Legolas. 'The houses are dead, and there is too little here that grows and is glad. If Aragorn comes into his own, the people of the Wood shall bring him birds that sing and trees that do not die.'

01-02-2002, 06:25 PM	#2
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	nope. I have missed that quote... I am sure one of our resident scholors knows though. i will go look in my Middle Earth encyclopedia....

01-02-2002, 09:53 PM	#3
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I have consulted my trusty The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth : From the Hobbit to the Silmarillion and it has no alternate names for the Barrow Wights. The Black Chasm also has no information on other names of these wights.

01-04-2002, 06:00 PM	#8
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	If I remember correctly, the extremely tired ones are burned out wights.

01-05-2002, 12:47 AM	#9
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	It Wight be a good idea to close it before the puns get worse. __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

01-05-2002, 01:33 AM	#10
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Has anyone yet mentioned Gandalf the Wight? ;- ) __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

01-05-2002, 01:36 AM	#11
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	I'll bet they wear wighty-tighty's __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

01-05-2002, 01:58 PM	#12
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	Thier name is a funny thing, I always imagined them as black not wight...

01-05-2002, 04:11 PM	#13
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	According to Thomas Paine's "The Wights of Man", every wight has the wight to choose its own name. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-05-2002, 04:17 PM	#14
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	FrodoFriend, I believe that your are wight on that...

01-05-2002, 06:33 PM	#15
Kirinki54 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: European Union Posts: 463	You know what guys? You´re all a wight for sore eyes!! __________________ 'They need more gardens,' said Legolas. 'The houses are dead, and there is too little here that grows and is glad. If Aragorn comes into his own, the people of the Wood shall bring him birds that sing and trees that do not die.'

01-05-2002, 07:19 PM	#16
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I am considering that Elrond wasn't Wight about the Wight's names. Do you think that the Barrow-Wight's were left or wight handed?

01-05-2002, 07:51 PM	#17
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	I believe I speak wightly when I say that I doubt anyone has ever considered it before. Maybe Elrond was mistaken. Why would anyone bother to make other wight names? After all, you know what they say: Out of wight, out of mind. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-06-2002, 03:49 PM	#18
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Or maybe he meant different names in different languages. I.E. Gandalf had 'many names in many tongues' He could have said 'The Ringwraiths we know by many names' in which case he would have been referring to Ulairi, Nazgul, etc. That's likely what it is. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-06-2002, 11:46 PM	#19
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Well, now, if we're talking about names for the Nazgul/Ringewraiths, the only one really individualized is the head Nazgul, also known as the "Witch King of Angmar". Also, in the Silmarillion, three of the Nazgul/Ulari are said to be "great lords of Numenorean race". As for the Barrow-Wights, no names are listed, only that they were evil spirits who had inhabited the Witch Kingdom of Angmar and invaded the barrows/crypts of the Kings and Lords of the Northern Kingdom, coming down from Angmar and Carn Dum. __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

01-07-2002, 08:28 PM	#20
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I was, uh, using the different names of he Ulairi as an example of how the wights could be 'known by many names'. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

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