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olorin · 12-11-2001, 03:49 AM

First the stupid Burger King commercial ("Behold Gandalf, now he can be held!"), and now I have seen a commercial advertising for LOTR action figures! When will it all end? People who haven't read LOTR are going to think it's just another common fantasy novel, rather than the awesome work of literature that it is. I am really sick of the commercialization.

samwise of the shire · 12-11-2001, 07:18 PM

Ouch! That HURTS...bad. The high quality action figures are'nt that good when it comes to the brightness of the characters(I've seen the Frodo

and the Legolas figurines) and they are both a LITTLE too light for action figures of LOTR. I want to get the soundtrack a couple of posters and maybe a small statuette of the four hobbits together and that'll probably be it.

surjay · 12-11-2001, 08:42 PM

The action figures are actually quite nice. I purchased several of them and they are amazingly detailed down to the most miniscule pieces of clothing and tools, etc.

I'm almost getting tired of people crying about the commercialization. Wake up people, this is the world and society we live in today. Everything is commercialized. The thing you need to realize is that all this hub bub is actually getting people, who would of never been exposed to LOTR otherwise, to read the novel for the first time, not the other way around. Huge facets of new fans are being created each day, and sure there are going to be some who just think of LOTR for the movies and the BK Goblets, but there are going to be so many others craving for more and turning to the novels for the first time, whereas without all this going on they would of never experienced the book. I think that is a positive thing. I don't want LOTR to be my little wonderful secret, and I encourage any means that is going to expose more readers to this fine piece of work.

Bombadil's PR Guy · 12-11-2001, 09:07 PM

Hello, Entmoot!

I agree with Surjay, that if Burger King figures and such promotion help bring people to the movie and thence, to the literature, then, who cares...even if the movie doesn't fullfill our expectations (I'm already wondering about the look of this Frodo)? It really is all about getting more people to the books.

Renille · 12-11-2001, 10:31 PM

Maybe...unless the comercialization leads people to think that LOTR is just another crazy fantasy/sci-fi deal. (oh yes, and Welcome!)

Bombadil's PR Guy · 12-11-2001, 11:47 PM

We have to rely upon the movie to give an accurate representation of the book. It's very difficult for me to believe that the biggest budget, best cast movie, by the most fully comprehending director can give us in 2 hrs + change, anything equal to the experience of reading even a 3rd of this work, but an accurate representation of the book is the key, despite how all the action figures might detract, or even make mockery of this work. Perception of the book hinges on the flick, since millions forget about all the hoop-la, if they can be successfully sucked into the genius of Tolkien by a movie that entirely captivates them.
This really does not parallel the situation of a rock group with the cult following who gets discovered, overcommercialized, and their music then becomes dictated by corperations instead of what's in their heads. These books will continue to provide new discovery, regardless of what commercialization, or even a crappy movie can do.

Darth Tater · 12-12-2001, 11:07 AM

Welcome to the Moot, bloody brilliant screenname!

Play Girl · 12-12-2001, 02:25 PM

Just to put my two cents in they are spreading the films over three years after all even though all the live action stuff has been filmed. How can they be so cruel. That is just for merchandise in my opinion.
Play Girl
xxx

Strange-Looking Lurker · 12-12-2001, 06:05 PM

Yea, I'm sure it will all drive us not, but don't forget Play Girl that the whole idea of the movie is to make money anyway.

Celeborn · 12-12-2001, 06:47 PM

I am not trying to argue but I think Peter Jackson Will enjoy Directing and being part of this movie more then the money he makes

samwise of the shire · 12-14-2001, 05:37 PM

I agree with Celeborn. They put so much of the original beauty and faerishness into the movie(and the pictures show it)that Tolkien put into his books, you KNOW they are'nt just on some wild money making quest. You can TELL the people associated with the making of LOTR really know what thier doing and respect what Tolkin wrote. It'll be a good movie. No not just a Good Movie a Great Movie.
Welcome to the Entmoot Bombadil!
Sam

Bombadil's PR Guy · 12-14-2001, 06:54 PM

Thanks, Samwise...actually, I'm just Bombadil's PR Guy though...and having read elsewhere that Tom doesn't make it into this movie, I guess I'd been slackin'.
I'm debating whether to wait and see the movie after I've gotten some feedback, or try to get there early & let the movie experience be unclouded by too many comments...but I'm optimistic that it will indeed be a great movie.

Mathron · 12-14-2001, 08:20 PM

My take on such stuff: I don't really like it, but it may help get people interested in the books (a good thing) and can provide a laugh or two.

Now introducing: The One Ring with magic Soul Stealing Action!

12-11-2001, 03:49 AM	#1
olorin Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 38	no no no First the stupid Burger King commercial ("Behold Gandalf, now he can be held!"), and now I have seen a commercial advertising for LOTR action figures! When will it all end? People who haven't read LOTR are going to think it's just another common fantasy novel, rather than the awesome work of literature that it is. I am really sick of the commercialization. __________________ All that's gold does not glitter Not all who wander are lost The old that is strong does not wither Deep roots are not reached by the frost.....

12-11-2001, 07:18 PM	#2
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Ouch! That HURTS...bad. The high quality action figures are'nt that good when it comes to the brightness of the characters(I've seen the Frodo and the Legolas figurines) and they are both a LITTLE too light for action figures of LOTR. I want to get the soundtrack a couple of posters and maybe a small statuette of the four hobbits together and that'll probably be it. __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

12-11-2001, 08:42 PM	#3
surjay Sapling Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Madison, IN USA Posts: 6	...... The action figures are actually quite nice. I purchased several of them and they are amazingly detailed down to the most miniscule pieces of clothing and tools, etc. I'm almost getting tired of people crying about the commercialization. Wake up people, this is the world and society we live in today. Everything is commercialized. The thing you need to realize is that all this hub bub is actually getting people, who would of never been exposed to LOTR otherwise, to read the novel for the first time, not the other way around. Huge facets of new fans are being created each day, and sure there are going to be some who just think of LOTR for the movies and the BK Goblets, but there are going to be so many others craving for more and turning to the novels for the first time, whereas without all this going on they would of never experienced the book. I think that is a positive thing. I don't want LOTR to be my little wonderful secret, and I encourage any means that is going to expose more readers to this fine piece of work. __________________ "What's taters, precious, eh, what's taters?"

12-11-2001, 09:07 PM	#4
Bombadil's PR Guy Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Western Michigan, USA Posts: 18	Hello, Entmoot! I agree with Surjay, that if Burger King figures and such promotion help bring people to the movie and thence, to the literature, then, who cares...even if the movie doesn't fullfill our expectations (I'm already wondering about the look of this Frodo)? It really is all about getting more people to the books. __________________ "Keep'em confused, Tom."

12-11-2001, 10:31 PM	#5
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	Maybe...unless the comercialization leads people to think that LOTR is just another crazy fantasy/sci-fi deal. (oh yes, and Welcome!) __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.) Last edited by Renille : 12-11-2001 at 10:32 PM.

12-11-2001, 11:47 PM	#6
Bombadil's PR Guy Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Western Michigan, USA Posts: 18	We have to rely upon the movie to give an accurate representation of the book. It's very difficult for me to believe that the biggest budget, best cast movie, by the most fully comprehending director can give us in 2 hrs + change, anything equal to the experience of reading even a 3rd of this work, but an accurate representation of the book is the key, despite how all the action figures might detract, or even make mockery of this work. Perception of the book hinges on the flick, since millions forget about all the hoop-la, if they can be successfully sucked into the genius of Tolkien by a movie that entirely captivates them. This really does not parallel the situation of a rock group with the cult following who gets discovered, overcommercialized, and their music then becomes dictated by corperations instead of what's in their heads. These books will continue to provide new discovery, regardless of what commercialization, or even a crappy movie can do. __________________ "Keep'em confused, Tom."

12-12-2001, 11:07 AM	#7
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	Welcome to the Moot, bloody brilliant screenname! __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot

12-12-2001, 02:25 PM	#8
Play Girl Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: If I told you I would have to kill you Posts: 159	Just to put my two cents in they are spreading the films over three years after all even though all the live action stuff has been filmed. How can they be so cruel. That is just for merchandise in my opinion. Play Girl xxx __________________ "Off the Record On the Q-T And very HUSH HUSH" Frodo lives!

12-12-2001, 06:05 PM	#9
Strange-Looking Lurker Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OK, USA Posts: 213	Yea, I'm sure it will all drive us not, but don't forget Play Girl that the whole idea of the movie is to make money anyway. __________________ <hr>Check out my site: www.christianjugglers.org

12-12-2001, 06:47 PM	#10
Celeborn Sapling Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lorien Posts: 4	I am not trying to argue but I think Peter Jackson Will enjoy Directing and being part of this movie more then the money he makes

12-14-2001, 05:37 PM	#11
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I agree with Celeborn. They put so much of the original beauty and faerishness into the movie(and the pictures show it)that Tolkien put into his books, you KNOW they are'nt just on some wild money making quest. You can TELL the people associated with the making of LOTR really know what thier doing and respect what Tolkin wrote. It'll be a good movie. No not just a Good Movie a Great Movie. Welcome to the Entmoot Bombadil! Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

12-14-2001, 06:54 PM	#12
Bombadil's PR Guy Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Western Michigan, USA Posts: 18	Thanks, Samwise...actually, I'm just Bombadil's PR Guy though...and having read elsewhere that Tom doesn't make it into this movie, I guess I'd been slackin'. I'm debating whether to wait and see the movie after I've gotten some feedback, or try to get there early & let the movie experience be unclouded by too many comments...but I'm optimistic that it will indeed be a great movie. __________________ "Keep'em confused, Tom."

12-14-2001, 08:20 PM	#13
Mathron Hobbit-Huorn RPG Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 695	My take on such stuff: I don't really like it, but it may help get people interested in the books (a good thing) and can provide a laugh or two. Now introducing: The One Ring with magic Soul Stealing Action! __________________ Through Truth, Power.