the most disliked of all characters

[Elvellon]

Hi,

The argument about thingol gave me an idea for my first thread.

Here it goes...
What is the character that you dislike the most?
And why do you dislike him/her/it?

(This thread must be old news, but I had to do it anyway).

[Finmandos12]

Maeglin.

He betrayed turgon and caused the fall of Gondolin.

[Comic Book Guy]

Apart from the obvious Sauron and Morgoth, I would have to say the Witch-King because hes so full of himself . I also dislike Bill Ferny for his selfish dirty ways.

I also dislike Lobielia Sackville-Baggins before she was imprisoned because she is snob. Grima Wormtongue because he betrayed an old man who had utmost trust in him.

[olorin]

How about Mim, the petty dwarf? He most certainly was a stinker.

[Strange-Looking Lurker]

Yea, Mim was pretty bad.

How about the good-wizard-who-turned-bad? (hey, don't laugh, I can't remember how to spell his name!)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Elvellon
Hi,

The argument about thingol gave me an idea for my first thread.

Here it goes...
What is the character that you dislike the most?
And why do you dislike him/her/it?

(This thread must be old news, but I had to do it anyway).

Well, I think I made myself pretty clear in the Thingol debate, who I dislike the most, but I'll give you a hint. His name starts with a T and ends with an l. Why? Because of Finrod Felagund. There are some other pretty rotten people in Middle-earth too. I really dislike Celegorm and Curufin, because they tried to usurp the throne of Nargothrond and they managed to turn Finrod's entire kingdom against him except for ten guys. Let's see, then there is Eol, and Meaglin, and Mim, and Believe it or not, I don't like Gwindor. He made some pretty bad choices, and is another that did not stand by his king. Then we have Bill Ferney, Saruman, Grima, and last but not least disliked, we have Celeborn. He is of the kin of Thingol, and it shows. Poor Galadriel.

[Galadriel2002]

besides the ones every one knows, sauraman because hes an old prude who lyed and employed orcs

[Varda]

yes, mim was bad..... and sauran and morgoth of course.... also i disliked ungoliant and shelob...... i disliked saruman more than grima wormtongue, though. wormtongue was more of a puppet...

[ringbearer]

No one has mentioned Denathor...remember...he tried to kill his own son!

[Ñólendil]

Jar Jar Binks. Self explanatory.

Osellë, I've re-diagnosed your opinion about Thingol: sour grapes. Deep breaths should help you through it.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Inoldonil
Jar Jar Binks. Self explanatory.

Osellë, I've re-diagnosed your opinion about Thingol: sour grapes. Deep breaths should help you through it.

Thank you Doctor, but If that hasn't helped in all these years, nothing will. SOUR GRAPES! You mean I did all that typing for nothing. Darn it .

[Elvellon]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
and last but not least disliked, we have Celeborn. He is of the kin of Thingol, and it shows. Poor Galadriel.

....Here we go again....

[jediguy]

What about Eol?
He was an evil, evil character.

[Elvellon]

Yup, you are right jediguy, he is on my top 10 most disliked...

and he was Thingol's kin too

(I just had to say that before you do, Sister Golden Hair )

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Elvellon
Yup, you are right jediguy, he is on my top 10 most disliked...

and he was Thingol's kin too

(I just had to say that before you do, Sister Golden Hair )

Well, I don't want to give the impression that I dislike the Teleri. Afterall, Finrod's somewhat Teleran. I already mentioned Eol I believe, I mean what is it with that family? I don't see how my hero grew into such a great guy with all that bad blood.

[Ñólendil]

Lots of people are related to Thingol you know. If you want to include some nice people related to him, esp. if you are going to point out Finrod you ought to remember his siblings, Angrod, Aegnor and Galadriel, I guess so little is known about the characters of Nimloth and Eärwen (or even Olwë) you could use it against me, but also Dior, Orodreth, according to the latest idea Gil-Galad, and Finduilas, CelebrÃ*an, Elwing, Elros, Elrond, Elladan, Elrohir, Arwen and CÃ*rdan. Ofcourse the descendants of Elros are so numerous you'd say the kinship doesn't count. I would agree with you, but not for that reason. There's bad and good in every lot, blood doesn't make you one or the other *draws his sword*

[Finmandos12]

I absolutely HATE Maeglin, Eol, and Turin (I know everything wasn't his fault, but I still hate him), and dislike Thingol. What's wrong with Celeborn though?

[Theodred]

I didn't like Eol!
Turin was sort of a duffer, but I still liked him. Ans there is nothing wrong with Thingol either. He helped Turin, and ruled wisely.

Others I hate include: Morgoth, Denthor, Saruman, and Bill Ferny!

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Inoldonil
Lots of people are related to Thingol you know. If you want to include some nice people related to him, esp. if you are going to point out Finrod you ought to remember his siblings, Angrod, Aegnor and Galadriel, I guess so little is known about the characters of Nimloth and Eärwen (or even Olwë) you could use it against me, but also Dior, Orodreth, according to the latest idea Gil-Galad, and Finduilas, CelebrÃ*an, Elwing, Elros, Elrond, Elladan, Elrohir, Arwen and CÃ*rdan. Ofcourse the descendants of Elros are so numerous you'd say the kinship doesn't count. I would agree with you, but not for that reason. There's bad and good in every lot, blood doesn't make you one or the other *draws his sword*

Well, I don't hold ill favor to all that are related to Thingol, so I would like to clear that up first. Second, As Finrod's brother, I never liked Orodreth. I found him very week of will, and easily influenced. As for Orodreth as Finrod's nephew, I don't know. But I think the outcome is probably the same, because of the way events occurred with the sack of Nargothrond.

[Ñólendil]

I knew you didn't dislike all related to Thingol, or you would not like Finrod. I was trying to get across the point that kinship does not necessarily have anything to do with character. You said 'I don't see how my hero [Finrod] grew into such a great guy with all that bad blood.' Obviously you meant it as a kind of joke, but I assumed some authentic feeling behind the comment. Considering his relations, you must be bewildered by the entire family with such a view. Or you should be, I know you aren't. Thus my post was also a suggestion of mine that you should choose your words more carefully.

Famous quotes tell us the pen is a mighty weapon, and wisdom tells us mighty weapons should be handled with care. Logic tells us the keyboard imitates this mighty weapon. I therefore tell you to take care!

Yes, Orodreth as Finrod's nephew was the same person (but his name became Arothir). The only thing that was changed about him was his place in a genealogical table, which might tell you something.