A translation on Adunaic

Musjer · 11-23-2005, 04:40 PM

I searched the Internet, but haven't found what I want. I want to translate a phrase "Dawn of Gondor on Adunaic", but there is no dictionary. Please, help me.

P.S: Forgive my English, I'm foreigner.

Butterbeer · 11-23-2005, 04:47 PM

wotcha Musjer!

how you doing?

Quote:

P.S: Forgive my English, I'm foreigner.

that'd be :

I'm a foreigner

..welcome to the MOOT!

well, i haven't a clue ..try pm'ing (private messaging) Rian: she's an expert on languages ... if she don't know maybe she'll know someones as does (terrible english from me there!

)

p.s. why you wanna translate it?

best to ya, BB

Musjer · 11-23-2005, 05:07 PM

Ach, what a mistake! Thank You, Butterbeer. I need this word to name a sword in a game on Ultima Online engine. Its name is Endore - http://endore.angrenost.org/. MMORPG concentrated on atmosphere of Middle-Earth. I will send PM to Rian. Thanks for nice welcome.

P.S: I'm Pole exactly and Endore is a Polish server.

***Rían*** · 11-23-2005, 06:16 PM

Hi Musjer! I answered your PM but I'm afraid you'll be disappointed - the only languages I like are the Elven ones, and I'm not even an expert in those. I just really enjoy reading about them, but I can't speak them. I know nothing of Adunaic - sorry! But I hope you'll stay and enjoy Entmoot

(my favorite teacher of all time was Polish

)

Curubethion · 11-23-2005, 06:29 PM

Adunaic...I think Tolkien wrote about it in some kind of "Papers" or something else...
Most of his languages were incomplete.

Butterbeer · 11-23-2005, 07:15 PM

well, put the word around the moot ... Adunaic expert needed!

i'm off to spread the word in the teacup cafe ....

Gordis · 11-23-2005, 07:35 PM

Adunaic is fascinating, but very incomplete. I think a few words known in this language could be gleaned from

1. "The Line of Elros" in the "Unfinished Tales "and
2. "The Notion Club Papers" in HOME IX "Sauron Defeated".

Try this site, it is the best I have found:

http://www.geocities.com/jonathanrisser/home.htm

I think the word "Dawn" in Adunaic was not invented, sorry.

Butterbeer · 11-23-2005, 07:48 PM

btw ..if Rian cannot help you then i'd recommend Gordis!

wotcha Gor!

Gordis · 11-23-2005, 07:56 PM

I think nobody can help you with translating "Dawn". But you can choose another name for your sword, Musjer, using the Adunaic dictionary in the link above. It is fairy complete (I mean all the Adunaic words invented by Tolkien himself are there). What a pity they are so few!

And welcome to the Moot! Stay with us Musjer!

Musjer · 11-23-2005, 08:39 PM

Thank You all. Of course I'll stay, as long, as I have something to say. I think I'll
choose a new name from that dictionary or call it in Polish. And I'll practice my English. If somebody is interested: "Dawn of Gondor" in Polish is "Świt Gondoru".
It's 1:40 am in Poland, so I go to sleep now.

Butterbeer · 11-23-2005, 08:48 PM

night Musjer! sleep well. I'll be off in a bit meself.

why not introduce yourself in the intro section ..new members bit?

see ya around.

btw, Rian, Gordis and myself can be found in the discussion thread in rpg for nazgul and kings .... take it easy.

best BB

Curubethion · 11-23-2005, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

Adunaic is fascinating, but very incomplete. I think a few words known in this language could be gleaned from

1. "The Line of Elros" in the "Unfinished Tales "and
2. "The Notion Club Papers" in HOME IX "Sauron Defeated".

Try this site, it is the best I have found:

http://www.geocities.com/jonathanrisser/home.htm

I think the word "Dawn" in Adunaic was not invented, sorry.

Ah...that's what it was: Notion Club Papers.

Butterbeer · 11-23-2005, 08:59 PM

wotcha curub ... managing to keep up with fast pace of 'gates of mirkwood'??

best, BB

Curubethion · 11-24-2005, 12:53 PM

No...I think I got lost a few hundred posts back...

About "dawn": try "azuure" (pronounced "ah-zu-oo-ray", not sure if Adunaic had double vowels)...It literally means "east-sun".

11-23-2005, 04:40 PM	#1
Musjer Sapling Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3	A translation on Adunaic I searched the Internet, but haven't found what I want. I want to translate a phrase "Dawn of Gondor on Adunaic", but there is no dictionary. Please, help me. P.S: Forgive my English, I'm foreigner.

11-23-2005, 05:07 PM	#3
Musjer Sapling Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3	Ach, what a mistake! Thank You, Butterbeer. I need this word to name a sword in a game on Ultima Online engine. Its name is Endore - http://endore.angrenost.org/. MMORPG concentrated on atmosphere of Middle-Earth. I will send PM to Rian. Thanks for nice welcome. P.S: I'm Pole exactly and Endore is a Polish server. Last edited by Musjer : 11-23-2005 at 05:13 PM.

11-23-2005, 06:16 PM	#4
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Hi Musjer! I answered your PM but I'm afraid you'll be disappointed - the only languages I like are the Elven ones, and I'm not even an expert in those. I just really enjoy reading about them, but I can't speak them. I know nothing of Adunaic - sorry! But I hope you'll stay and enjoy Entmoot (my favorite teacher of all time was Polish ) __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

11-23-2005, 06:29 PM	#5
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Adunaic...I think Tolkien wrote about it in some kind of "Papers" or something else... Most of his languages were incomplete. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

11-24-2005, 12:53 PM	#14
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	No...I think I got lost a few hundred posts back... About "dawn": try "azuure" (pronounced "ah-zu-oo-ray", not sure if Adunaic had double vowels)...It literally means "east-sun". __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

11-23-2005, 07:15 PM	#6
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	well, put the word around the moot ... Adunaic expert needed! i'm off to spread the word in the teacup cafe ....

11-23-2005, 07:35 PM	#7
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Adunaic is fascinating, but very incomplete. I think a few words known in this language could be gleaned from 1. "The Line of Elros" in the "Unfinished Tales "and 2. "The Notion Club Papers" in HOME IX "Sauron Defeated". Try this site, it is the best I have found: http://www.geocities.com/jonathanrisser/home.htm I think the word "Dawn" in Adunaic was not invented, sorry.

11-23-2005, 07:48 PM	#8
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	btw ..if Rian cannot help you then i'd recommend Gordis! wotcha Gor!

11-23-2005, 07:56 PM	#9
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	I think nobody can help you with translating "Dawn". But you can choose another name for your sword, Musjer, using the Adunaic dictionary in the link above. It is fairy complete (I mean all the Adunaic words invented by Tolkien himself are there). What a pity they are so few! And welcome to the Moot! Stay with us Musjer!

11-23-2005, 08:39 PM	#10
Musjer Sapling Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3	Thank You all. Of course I'll stay, as long, as I have something to say. I think I'll choose a new name from that dictionary or call it in Polish. And I'll practice my English. If somebody is interested: "Dawn of Gondor" in Polish is "Świt Gondoru". It's 1:40 am in Poland, so I go to sleep now.

11-23-2005, 08:48 PM	#11
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	night Musjer! sleep well. I'll be off in a bit meself. why not introduce yourself in the intro section ..new members bit? see ya around. btw, Rian, Gordis and myself can be found in the discussion thread in rpg for nazgul and kings .... take it easy. best BB

11-23-2005, 08:59 PM	#13
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	wotcha curub ... managing to keep up with fast pace of 'gates of mirkwood'?? best, BB

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