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The Power of the Rings
What were the powers of the seven rings of the dwarves. the nine rings of the nazgul, and the 3 rings of the elves? What did they do for the user? Im sure this is answered somewhere... and if people say check appendix A...
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Vilya - the ring of air - most powerful of the three - worn by Elrond Nenya - the ring of water - second of the three - worn by Galadriel Narya - the ring of fire - third ring of the Elves - worn by Gandalf
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But why would Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf have use of a ring that slows the affects of time. When all three can live forever.
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Remember how in Lorien they felt that they spent there a long time, while they actually stayed there two weeks or so..? And in Rivendell, the hobbits felt like something very old is still there, IIRC? (I mean, something from ages passed) Last edited by Radagast The Brown : 08-21-2004 at 06:02 PM. |
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So thats why they flet that way after leaving both polaces. I just read somewhere that Elronds ring gives him power to protect his realm of Rivnedell. I was oretty sure that was why the flood came. And Lorien had kindof a slow time spell work on it. Heh thats kind of funny. but Gandalfs ring?
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So Gandalf couldnt weary because he always had the spirit of fire. Just dont put him under an upside down glass.
So Gandalf- fiery spirit Galadriel- time slow downy thing Elrond- Protects his own borders okay cool but what powers did the dwarven rings give
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Well, they were made to subjugate the dwarves - much like the 9 given to men - but all it did was make them more inclined to lust after gold!
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That seems pretty wimpy to me. All they do is make you lust after gold. SO why didnt the dwarves just through the rings into their treasure box. That way they could own it but not lust for gold so much.
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And that turned against them as because Sauron had aided in making them they were all consumed in dragon fire or so it says somewhere.
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not all if you are referring to erebor. Dain. if not what are you talking about?
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I'm not sure if all of the Seven are accounted for. Some were consumed by dragons and I believe it says somewhere that Sauron regained some of them.
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I just read in Appendix A that Thrain actually had a ring and he was given it by Thror before Thror was killed by Azog. Thats why Sauron captured him and thats wwhy Gandalf found him in BArad-dur.
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Gandalf found Thrain in the dungeons of Dol-Guldur not Barad-Dur and it says in CoE that the Ring passed from thror to Thrain but not from Thrain to Thorin.
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First off I never said anything about Thorin getting the ring (but if I did I am sorry) and secondly sorry about the dol Goldur and Barad-Dur mix up. It says in Appendix A that Thrain tried to take Erebor himself and I think BAlin and maybe Dwalin went with him. But Sauron hampered him the entire way and when they trasveled through Mirkwood one night Thrain just disappeared through the night. So Sauron got his ring.
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Still just lust. Why not absolute consuming desire. Like if they saw gold or heard of it they would blindly try to take it and take it by any means necessary. Even from family members and friends. That would be cool and evil. They would basically become little teenie dragons. hehehehehehe.
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No for they wished for wealth of Dwark kind (I think) so they would not have stole from other Dwarves and they could resist the pull of their rings more than the men.
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Im just saying that those rings seem kind of wimpy to me. I thoguth total lust would be cooler than just regular lust. I mean imagine seven dwarves doing anything to get ehtier hand on all gold everywhere. Sauron would have completely knocked out the dwarves cuz the dwarves would be constantly fighting with each other. That would have been the smart thing to do. and also cooler
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