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Old 12-17-2002, 08:56 AM   #1
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Funny poster - Iraq

You really have to see this poster.
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Old 12-17-2002, 09:01 AM   #2
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Old 12-17-2002, 09:17 AM   #3
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Well, that's Saddam... I especially like how it ties in to the SW: AotClones thing.
If you've been following US politics it's hilarious.
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Old 12-17-2002, 10:56 PM   #4
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Old 12-17-2002, 11:00 PM   #5
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lol ..........don't forget to read the small print at the bottom, it's the best bit
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Old 12-18-2002, 12:58 AM   #6
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But where's George's mask?
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Old 12-18-2002, 09:06 AM   #7
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Well, we haven't seen his true colors yet.
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LOL! It's really good! Saddam has a nice beer body...
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funny but random...lol!
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that is pretty cool
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Old 01-03-2003, 01:58 PM   #11
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lol very funny! One time I found a pic of George W with Binoculars looking at something. But the caps were still over the lenses! lol

But I really will hate it when we go to war. We alll know its going to happen. Just when?
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Old 01-03-2003, 05:09 PM   #12
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But I really will hate it when we go to war. We alll know its going to happen. Just when?
Well my dad is of the opinion that George Bush will just keep on usding it as a ploy to get votes and never do it... but no one agrees with him. I will hate it too.
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Old 01-04-2003, 08:54 PM   #13
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Well my dad is of the opinion that George Bush will just keep on usding it as a ploy to get votes and never do it... but no one agrees with him. I will hate it too.
Even if we win?

By win, I mean not only removing Saddam Hussein from power but also, in the words of a former speechwriter of the President, shaking up "all those people who have made fortunes out of the closed system of controls and special favours that directs the Arab world's wealth into the hands of a tiny, well-connected elite" and enabling, hopefully, widespread democracy throughout this region where hate grows so easily now, though even the development of a strong middle class would be nice.

A very daring thing for an oilman and politician to attempt...guess he feels he has to, to correct the error his dad made 12 years ago, one that has already cost the US sorely.

Er, my favorite poster on the subject would be one of those "Uncle Sam Wants YOU!" ones (dons flameproof jumpsuit and waits.... )
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Old 01-05-2003, 12:32 AM   #14
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Er, my favorite poster on the subject would be one of those "Uncle Sam Wants YOU!" ones (dons flameproof jumpsuit and waits.... )
You'll need it with the anti-americanism that usually permeates the site. Although - lately everyone has backed off. Now it seems to be just little digs.

I think the war would ultimately be good for the region and the people of Iraq - just as long as Iraq does get built up afterward.
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Old 01-05-2003, 04:31 AM   #15
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You'll need it with the anti-americanism that usually permeates the site. Although - lately everyone has backed off. Now it seems to be just little digs.
Ach, even anti-american flame wars get boring for me after a while ................ must be all that xmas spirit I absorbed
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Old 01-05-2003, 11:21 AM   #16
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You'll need it with the anti-americanism that usually permeates the site. Although - lately everyone has backed off. Now it seems to be just little digs.
Freedom of speech was never meant to be comfortable, JD.

It's a massive job, one bigger than you or I, to shift the, well, really, the global focus nowadays in the civilized world from 'who and what do you hate' to 'what do you love'; from 'what's wrong with America' to 'I'm America: how can I help you?'

Most people will go with what is socially safe, but always have an eye open to the coming trend as well as what appeals to them personally. One can't get stirred up over that.

Actually, I expected silence and a quick descent of the thread into oblivion, which likely will happen unless there's something appealing about it to make people want to take part in it. And people are kind of tired of the same old "seeing red" type of stuff.

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I think the war would ultimately be good for the region and the people of Iraq - just as long as Iraq does get built up afterward.
The implication being that it will get torn down. It's already a mess...unless you're a buddy of Saddam and his clique. Check out some of the other articles at that site for a look at "the real Baghdad," etc.

We have already made some wonderful progress: for example, just what would have happened had we made our demand that Saddam admit UN inspectors? He would have fought it tooth and nail. So we psyched him out, didn't we? That is a battle won, and it tore nothing down. We are indeed using every weapon in our arsenal, but the best ones first. They are our men and women in service to this country through the government as well as in the military, and their intellects and hearts.

This is why I say my favorite poster is the "Uncle Sam needs YOU!!" kind, though I did appreciate this one and Saddam's "gut"; it's also nice to see somebody show, howsoever obliquely, that America actually does have Dr. Rice up there in a prominent role in all this.

Not that USNY! posters are needed nowadays for patriotic expression or recruitment, as they were used in WWII. Or that they be strictly military. Nowadays, it's quiet and comes from the heart wherever one is: one does rather than speaks. That's because it's still not socially safe to express these sorts of things out loud in many forums and places (obviously, it is in Entmoot or we wouldn't be going on and on about it, no?).

In a way that social pressure is good, too: keeps the hypocrites out.
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Old 01-05-2003, 03:00 PM   #17
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Old 01-06-2003, 09:18 AM   #18
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Well my dad is of the opinion that George Bush will just keep on usding it as a ploy to get votes and never do it... but no one agrees with him. I will hate it too.
Well, Elf Girl... Your dad isn't all wrong. In my opinion he is using it as a ploy to get votes. And it worked! Bush's wartime approval ratings drove scores of Republicans into public offices, overriding concerns about the economy and domestic issues. But I still think he'll go through with it. In fact, one might say that he's gone too far not to. The only possible outcome is war; he's spurned too many compromises or inspections.

But the primary purpose was to get votes.
Finishing Daddy's job is just a plus.

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The implication being that it will get torn down. It's already a mess...unless you're a buddy of Saddam and his clique. Check out some of the other articles at that site for a look at "the real Baghdad," etc.
Indeed. Iraq is a mess. But so was the Taliban Afghanistan, and it's worse in a lot of ways now. Some people have more rights (women come to mind) and that's a good thing but now that US forces are pulling out of peacekeeping duty, chaos and warlord control are taking over the region. Bush has ignored all evidence to the contrary and declared total victory. And now he's starting another war.

By the way, would anyone like to defend the way that Bush has used a heavyhanded approach in Iraq, which MAY have weapons of mass destruction, but is doing almost nothing about North Korea, which has 2 nuclear warheads and is activating manufacturing complexes to make more, breaking UN agreements left and right? (that was a big sentence)

C'mon, Republicans. I know you're out there.
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Old 01-06-2003, 04:16 PM   #19
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Even if we win?
Yes. War is not justified unless the people of Iraq ask us to step in.
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The poster would be very, very funny if it weren't so true. . .*laughs at poster then is sad about state of the world*
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