03-23-2005, 01:29 PM | #1 |
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Interesting Map
Little thing I've found.
I've never seen the whole of Arda illustrated like this.. thought you might like to see! Interesting Map
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03-23-2005, 05:22 PM | #2 |
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I've seen that in the Shaping of Middle-eath, HoME 4.
Though... haven't quite managed to read the book yet...
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Wow, strange map...
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It is pretty cool. I think we're supposed to go "hey, it's Earth!" when looking at it, and I definitely did. But I have one problem with it. What exactly is the Encircling Sea in this map? The map implies Arda is a sphere, and the Encircling Sea is... the atmosphere?
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03-26-2005, 06:23 PM | #5 |
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It's a 'regular' sea, I think.. it's mentioned in the Silmarillion. Apparently, only the Valar know its length, and it's the place where Ulmo 'lives'.
It seems like the sun and moon passes in it..? I'm not sure, I only noticed it now. I've never put attention to the Encircling Sea. |
03-26-2005, 06:28 PM | #6 |
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This is from the late Karen Wynn Fonstad's book "The Atlas of Middle -Earth".
She did an amazing work, making detailed maps not only to every tiny corner of Middle-earth, but to absolutely all events which happened on Arda since the dawn of its existance. I'm highly recommending to get this book. |
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Can't we just argee it's an interesting map?
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No, I change my mind. I dont think its interesting any more... so we can keep discussing.
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03-28-2005, 11:47 PM | #9 |
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Wait doesnt that map show a connection between ME and Valinor. I could be wron gbut I didnt think such a thing existed. IF so those elves were pretty foolish...
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Huh. SO then why didnt the elves go back and forth. Also if isildurs peeps wanted to go there so abd why didnt they cross over. It just seems a little odd to me that they would ignore that route.
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03-29-2005, 04:35 PM | #12 |
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Fingolfin and his people made their way into Middle-earth across the ice of the Helcaraxe at the beginning of the First Age.
Thats the only crossing I know of.
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okay but why werent their more. It coulda been a big tourist attraction. Like come on come all look upon the plains of Valinor.
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The Ice was very treacherous and near impossible to cross. I think thats the reason anyway...
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yeah I guess that makes sense. But I dont know I mean Valinor was a cool place. Some people would have tried. Still I guess what you are saying makes sense.
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The "ice-bridge" was broken by the Valar during the Hidding of Valinor to prevent any movement from Middle-Earth to Valinor. The map shows the state at the beginning of First Age.
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Thanks for clearing thta up. I was a tad confused. Cuz peopel obviously would have gone had it been there. SO thanks for clearing that up,
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Nice map. I remember I looked at it some time ago. After you posted this link. But I forgot about it...
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yes, it is an interesting map
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