The Blue Istari

Beren One-Hand · 04-04-2007, 10:44 AM

I read somehere that there were two blue Istari (wizards) But I can' t remember thier names.

What I do remember is that one was something like Pallano and they both traveled to the eastern lands but never returned.
I would also like to know what you think happened.

brownjenkins · 04-04-2007, 10:48 AM

Alatar and Pallando.

There is a chapter in Unfinished Tales, I believe, that cover some of Tolkien's notes on the two. That said, the detail is sparse as they more or less passed out of the histories of Middle Earth.

I'd like to think that they were taking care of business on the flipside of ME by trying to stem the spread of Sauron's influence, but that's just musing.

Beren One-Hand · 04-04-2007, 11:10 AM

Thank you brownjenkins.

orithil · 04-14-2007, 06:28 PM

Wasnt the reason they never returned was because they failed there mission on middle earth sort of like radagast?

Landroval · 04-14-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by orithil

Wasnt the reason they never returned was because they failed there mission on middle earth sort of like radagast?

Tolkien does hint at their failure:

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Originally Posted by Letter #211

I really do not know anything clearly about the other two – since they do not concern the history of the N.W. I think they went as emissaries to distant regions, East and South, far out of Numenorean range: missionaries to 'enemy-occupied' lands, as it were. What success they had I do not know; but I fear that they failed, as Saruman did, though doubtless in different ways; and I suspect they were founders or beginners of secret cults and 'magic' traditions that outlasted the fall of Sauron.

Butterbeer · 04-15-2007, 05:15 PM

All we can say for sure is that we know whence the 'Queen' of Narnia learned her 'Turkish delight' recipie from ...

That's Mustard - but beyond that - we can only speculate -

04-04-2007, 10:44 AM	#1
Beren One-Hand Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Texas (and I love it) Posts: 108	The Blue Istari I read somehere that there were two blue Istari (wizards) But I can' t remember thier names. What I do remember is that one was something like Pallano and they both traveled to the eastern lands but never returned. I would also like to know what you think happened. __________________ The Army of Shadow RPG

04-04-2007, 11:10 AM	#3
Beren One-Hand Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Texas (and I love it) Posts: 108	Thank you brownjenkins. __________________ The Army of Shadow RPG

04-14-2007, 06:28 PM	#4
orithil Captain Jack Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: High Charity Posts: 598	Wasnt the reason they never returned was because they failed there mission on middle earth sort of like radagast? __________________ Captain Jack Sparrow: When you marooned me on that god forsaken spit of land, you forgot one very important thing, mate: I’m Captain Jack Sparrow. Cortana: So have you got a plan to get out? Master Chief: I was gonna shoot my way out. Mix things up a little.

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04-04-2007, 10:48 AM	#2
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	Alatar and Pallando. There is a chapter in Unfinished Tales, I believe, that cover some of Tolkien's notes on the two. That said, the detail is sparse as they more or less passed out of the histories of Middle Earth. I'd like to think that they were taking care of business on the flipside of ME by trying to stem the spread of Sauron's influence, but that's just musing. __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

04-15-2007, 05:15 PM	#6
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	All we can say for sure is that we know whence the 'Queen' of Narnia learned her 'Turkish delight' recipie from ... That's Mustard - but beyond that - we can only speculate -