03-26-2006, 10:19 PM | #1 |
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Who created the ents?
Do we know from canon who created the ents?
Are they children of Iluvatar? or are they creations of Yavanna? or some other Vala? EDIT: I had mixed up Yavanna with Varda Last edited by The Wizard from Milan : 03-28-2006 at 12:28 AM. |
03-26-2006, 10:36 PM | #2 |
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IIRC, it was the the elves who first woke the trees up and began teaching them to speak.
Great, now I'm going to have to go and find that quote in TTT and post it. I'm sure some of the more knowledgeable ME history people could answer this better than I.
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03-26-2006, 11:05 PM | #3 |
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WAs it not Yavanna who thought up the concept of the Ents? She desired beings to look after her beloved trees. In the end though, it is Iluvatar who gives life and being to any idea that a Vala might have...i.e. Aule devised the Dwarves.
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... said Yavanna, ... "Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things that hve roots, and punish those that wrong them!"
"This is a strange thought," said Manwe. "Yet it was in the Song," said Yavanna, "For while though wert in the heavens and with Ulmo built the clouds and poured out the rain, I lifted up the branches of great trees to receive them, and some sang to Illuvatar amid the wind and the rain." Then Manwe sat silent, and the thought of Yavanna that she had put into his heart grew and unfolded; and it was beheld by Illuvatar. Then it seemed to Manwe that the Song rose once more about him, and he heeded now many things therein that though he had heard them he had not heeded before. ... ... "Nay," [Manwe] said, "only the trees of Aule will be tall enough. In the mountains the Eagles shall house, and hear the voices of those who call upon us. But in the forests shall walk the Shepherds of the Trees." Then Manwe and Yavanna parted for that time, and Yavanna returned to Aule; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. "Eru is bountiful," she said. "Now let thy children [the Dwarves] beware. For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril." "Nonetheless they will have need of wood," said Aule, and he went on with his smith-work. S Ch. 2 (Of Aule and Yavanna) |
04-23-2006, 07:09 PM | #7 |
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In reading a book by David Day called Tolkien the Illustrated Encyclopaedia, I found this quote,"They came from the thoughts of Yavanna, and were her shepherds of trees."
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Yes....yes....but who came first...ents or Bombadill?
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Tom Bombadil, of course
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Nah, it was the Ents.
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yeah...i agree your post. ents are creatures of Yavanna. |
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According to my sources: They are inhabited by spirits summoned by the thought of Yavanna to be the guardians of the olvar until the Dominion of Men. They awoke at the same time as the Elves and the Eldar gave them the desire to speak and taught them Quenya and Sindarin.
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