Paris Is Burning - Page 8

rohirrim TR · 12-09-2005, 11:33 AM

OK,cool,dry humor, yep BTW what is your avatar, zoro? or something?

Insidious Rex · 12-09-2005, 02:57 PM

Its Jimmy Page's metaphysical symbol that was used as part of the album name for Led Zeppelin's fourth album.

rohirrim TR · 12-09-2005, 03:49 PM

Oh, cool.

Spock · 12-09-2005, 03:51 PM

So tonight you better stop and rebuild all your ruins, because peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.

Immigrant Song.

Insidious Rex · 12-10-2005, 11:59 AM

Oh the war is common cry,
Pick up your swords and fly.
The sky is filled with good and bad
That mortals never know.

Insidious Rex · 12-14-2005, 04:58 PM

So what the heck has been going on in Australia now?

Lotesse · 12-14-2005, 05:26 PM

I was just thinking the same thing yesterday - and thinking it would be apropos to discuss it in this here thread, since it's basically the same concept - young Muslims & non-Muslims having at each other. I just heard a snippet about it on the news yesterday, though, so I'm not really "qualified" yet to discuss it, but it DOES seem that, world over, the Muslims are having more than "problems" integrating and/or getting along with their non-Muslim neighbors in the Western countries in general.

Insidious Rex · 12-14-2005, 05:57 PM

I think in Australia its less of a case of Muslims having issues with others as it is others (Australians) on edge because of tourist bombings the past few years (Bali and Jakarta that killed many Australians) and then having a single event ignite violence (in this case Lebanese kids rumored to have beaten up an Australian life guard). Strange that they would attack anyone non-white because of what some Lebanese kids might have done? But things just escalated from there. From what I understand Sydney, as opposed to France, normally has a pretty good reputation as a racially mixed and harmonious place. So this is uncharacteristic.

Lotesse · 03-29-2006, 01:10 PM

Hey look - Parisian people riot, again, this time they are mad about the new labour law that was passed there, denying job security to people aged 26 and younger. Those kids are pretty pissed off about it, man. Something about Parisians, they do love a good riot.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/eur...srupts_france/

rohirrim TR · 03-29-2006, 01:13 PM

speaking of riots is L.A going nuts where you are about the immigration thing? of course in their defense I don't think that there has been any true "Riot" but 500,000 people marching is quite a sight and would disrupt traffic I shouldn't wonder.

Lotesse · 03-29-2006, 01:15 PM

No, there's no riots going on here! No police barracades, and mass nuttiness, and firehoses being turned onto throngs of furious twenty-somethings, and so on and so forth. If there was a march, it must have taken place in a part of east L.A. or the downtown area. You know, Los Angeles is a pretty huge city, rohirrim!

rohirrim TR · 03-29-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotesse

No, there's no riots going on here! No police barracades, and mass nuttiness, and firehoses being turned onto throngs of furious twenty-somethings, and so on and so forth. If there was a march, it must have taken place in a part of east L.A. or the downtown area. You know, Los Angeles is a pretty huge city, rohirrim!

thats true I suppose 500,000 is what? only about 25% of the city?

Lotesse · 03-29-2006, 01:32 PM

There are over 9 million people in Los Angeles!

And that's just the amount that the census bureau can count; that doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of illegals. Like I said, rohirrim, L.A. is a very large city, and is very spread out, too. A person could live their entire life in, say, Beverly Hills, and never once make it to east L.A., or live entirely in Santa Monica and never go downtown. Or live their whole life in the San Fernando Valley, and not once make it over to Venice Beach, or whatever.

Lief Erikson · 03-29-2006, 01:35 PM

I read that about a million people took part in one of the France protests. And now the strikes are going on. I really wonder what's going to become of France. It really seems as though something has got to change.

Hasty Ent · 03-29-2006, 01:39 PM

Springtime means strikes in France, - it's practically a tradition. :/

That said, I'm siding with the trade unions on this one. Allowing employers to dismiss new hires without cause is just wrong, imho, and won't improve France's unemployment numbers.

Lotesse · 03-29-2006, 01:40 PM

I know, huh. Those crazy frogs! It's like the society itself is folding inward, or something. The way the government is run, it doesn't seem to be working right. Showing little cracks, like spider cracks in a glass.

Here's the L.A. protest march - yes, this is downtown L.A., see the Federal building in the background of the picture? These will be primarily immigrants, illegal as well as legal, mostly from Mexico and Central & South America, mad about the tougher anti-immigration legislation.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines

BeardofPants · 03-29-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasty Ent

Springtime means strikes in France, - it's practically a tradition. :/

That said, I'm siding with the trade unions on this one. Allowing employers to dismiss new hires without cause is just wrong, imho, and won't improve France's unemployment numbers.

Ditto. I am totally against this, and Youth Rates. Both are complete and utter bollocks, IMO.

The Gaffer · 03-29-2006, 04:26 PM

Yeah, this totally merits a riot. If they want to stimulate their economy, they need to get their farmers of their lardy, subsidised arses instead.

Also, you've gotta realise how the media love a riot even more than the the riot police. Which means to say it is always blown out of all proportion. My folks were there while the riots were on and they only knew about it because they watched it on the telly.

***Earniel*** · 03-29-2006, 07:07 PM

Paris does have the historic roots from May '68, so riots are not so un-parisian, I think.

But I too fail to see the logic in trying to boost the hiring of young people by taking away their job security and thus opening the door wide open for abuse. Although I think the occupying and more significantly, the damaging of the Sorbonne by the rioteers was uncalled for and childish.

But then the French government doesn't have such a straight record in treating their people right. I'm still fuming about how they handled and still handle the Corsican issues.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-29-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Paris does have the historic roots from May '68, so riots are not so un-parisian, I think.

Not to mention that whole French Revolution thing...

12-09-2005, 02:57 PM	#142
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Its Jimmy Page's metaphysical symbol that was used as part of the album name for Led Zeppelin's fourth album. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

12-10-2005, 11:59 AM	#145
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Oh the war is common cry, Pick up your swords and fly. The sky is filled with good and bad That mortals never know. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

12-14-2005, 04:58 PM	#146
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	So what the heck has been going on in Australia now? __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

12-14-2005, 05:26 PM	#147
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	I was just thinking the same thing yesterday - and thinking it would be apropos to discuss it in this here thread, since it's basically the same concept - young Muslims & non-Muslims having at each other. I just heard a snippet about it on the news yesterday, though, so I'm not really "qualified" yet to discuss it, but it DOES seem that, world over, the Muslims are having more than "problems" integrating and/or getting along with their non-Muslim neighbors in the Western countries in general. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

12-14-2005, 05:57 PM	#148
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	I think in Australia its less of a case of Muslims having issues with others as it is others (Australians) on edge because of tourist bombings the past few years (Bali and Jakarta that killed many Australians) and then having a single event ignite violence (in this case Lebanese kids rumored to have beaten up an Australian life guard). Strange that they would attack anyone non-white because of what some Lebanese kids might have done? But things just escalated from there. From what I understand Sydney, as opposed to France, normally has a pretty good reputation as a racially mixed and harmonious place. So this is uncharacteristic. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

12-09-2005, 03:51 PM	#144
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	So tonight you better stop and rebuild all your ruins, because peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing. Immigrant Song.

03-29-2006, 01:10 PM	#149
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Hey look - Parisian people riot, again, this time they are mad about the new labour law that was passed there, denying job security to people aged 26 and younger. Those kids are pretty pissed off about it, man. Something about Parisians, they do love a good riot. http://www.boston.com/news/world/eur...srupts_france/ __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

03-29-2006, 01:15 PM	#151
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	No, there's no riots going on here! No police barracades, and mass nuttiness, and firehoses being turned onto throngs of furious twenty-somethings, and so on and so forth. If there was a march, it must have taken place in a part of east L.A. or the downtown area. You know, Los Angeles is a pretty huge city, rohirrim! __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

03-29-2006, 01:32 PM	#153
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	There are over 9 million people in Los Angeles! And that's just the amount that the census bureau can count; that doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of illegals. Like I said, rohirrim, L.A. is a very large city, and is very spread out, too. A person could live their entire life in, say, Beverly Hills, and never once make it to east L.A., or live entirely in Santa Monica and never go downtown. Or live their whole life in the San Fernando Valley, and not once make it over to Venice Beach, or whatever. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

03-29-2006, 01:35 PM	#154
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	I read that about a million people took part in one of the France protests. And now the strikes are going on. I really wonder what's going to become of France. It really seems as though something has got to change. __________________ If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do."

03-29-2006, 01:39 PM	#155
Hasty Ent Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 516	Springtime means strikes in France, - it's practically a tradition. :/ That said, I'm siding with the trade unions on this one. Allowing employers to dismiss new hires without cause is just wrong, imho, and won't improve France's unemployment numbers. __________________ Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

03-29-2006, 01:40 PM	#156
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	I know, huh. Those crazy frogs! It's like the society itself is folding inward, or something. The way the government is run, it doesn't seem to be working right. Showing little cracks, like spider cracks in a glass. Here's the L.A. protest march - yes, this is downtown L.A., see the Federal building in the background of the picture? These will be primarily immigrants, illegal as well as legal, mostly from Mexico and Central & South America, mad about the tougher anti-immigration legislation. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Lotesse : 03-29-2006 at 01:48 PM.

03-29-2006, 04:26 PM	#158
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Yeah, this totally merits a riot. If they want to stimulate their economy, they need to get their farmers of their lardy, subsidised arses instead. Also, you've gotta realise how the media love a riot even more than the the riot police. Which means to say it is always blown out of all proportion. My folks were there while the riots were on and they only knew about it because they watched it on the telly.

03-29-2006, 07:07 PM	#159
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Paris does have the historic roots from May '68, so riots are not so un-parisian, I think. But I too fail to see the logic in trying to boost the hiring of young people by taking away their job security and thus opening the door wide open for abuse. Although I think the occupying and more significantly, the damaging of the Sorbonne by the rioteers was uncalled for and childish. But then the French government doesn't have such a straight record in treating their people right. I'm still fuming about how they handled and still handle the Corsican issues. __________________ We are not things.

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