Who do you think should be elected in 2008?

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Wha...? Rush Limbaugh was only pretending to hate McCain?

Originally Posted by Tessar

Rush Limbaugh is confusing . That's all there is to it.

Oxy will do that to you.

He just wants to go to the Inaugural Ball. He's an idiot, and he really expected his "dittoheads" to follow him anywhere.

[hectorberlioz]

I just had a storming thought: what's going to happen to John McCain's seat? There's been some rumors of him resigning it.

Btw, I'm going to raise the McCain flag in my sig....big deal for me

[hectorberlioz]

Romney to endorse McCain later on today

That's a lot of delegates to give McCain. What a Valentine's Day gift, eh?

[Mari]

Okay, please enlighten me. Does this mean that if McCain gets elected that Romney will be his VP? And how much power does the vice-president have?

[brownjenkins]

Originally Posted by Mari

Okay, please enlighten me. Does this mean that if McCain gets elected that Romney will be his VP? And how much power does the vice-president have?

Not really. Deals can be made, but they don't have to be. Often endorsers get other spots like cabinet positions, etc.

VPs have very little power in the US system, though in recent history some have been given a lot (i.e. Dick Cheney), but that is the president's choice.

Typically, a VP is chosen to capture a part of the electorate the candidate may be lacking in, and as someone with potential to run as president years down the line. From purely that perspective, Huckabee would be the logical choice, though not a likely one for McCain.

[Mari]

Okay, thank you! ^_^

[Nurvingiel]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

"At a minimum, a head of state should have a head." ~Vladimir Putin, on Hillary Clinton

Hey, I'm like most of you. I agree with Hillary that Putin "has no soul", but that was one heck of a great one-liner.

Great one liner!? No way, it totally fails. I didn't realise that Putin was a sexist neanderthal. Tip: not having a 'meat-n'-two-veg" doesn't disqualify you from a leadership position.

I didn't expect that from Putin. That's the kind of comment I'd expect from Silvio Berlusconi.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Great one liner!? No way, it totally fails. I didn't realise that Putin was a sexist neanderthal. Tip: not having a 'meat-n'-two-veg" doesn't disqualify you from a leadership position.

I didn't expect that from Putin. That's the kind of comment I'd expect from Silvio Berlusconi.

What's so sexist about it? It could have been said if Obama had been the one who said "Putin has no soul". Sorry, I don't see it...

Putin is scared of a future anti-Putin U.S. President. He'll be fighting against McCain ("when I look into his eyes, I see KGB") just as hard as against Hillary...

[hectorberlioz]

Somebody was bound to agree with me!

[Nurvingiel]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

What's so sexist about it? It could have been said if Obama had been the one who said "Putin has no soul". Sorry, I don't see it...

"Hillary Clinton has no head" doesn't make any sense unless you're referring to... er, this is a family board. Do I have to spell it out for you?

Otherwise, maybe it was some sort of translation error? Because, what the heck does that mean anyway?

[Mari]

I think it's quite a catchy song Reminds me a bit of Dora the Adventurer with that sweet voice...

[Nurvingiel]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

*blank stare*

I. Didn't. Think. It. Was. Possible.

If you thought the Hillary/Jackson Five video was hideous, just wait till you watch this new Mike Huckabee video. Outdoes the Hillary in horribility factors on every level.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/1...kabee-edition/

Oh man this is hilarious! Bahaha! WOW.

Originally Posted by Mari

I think it's quite a catchy song Reminds me a bit of Dora the Adventurer with that sweet voice...

The ad was actually okay until he started calling the other guys wannabes. Now he'll just look like an idiot when McCain completely destroys him.

[hectorberlioz]

Nurv, you gotta look up my link to the Hillary music video a few pages back. It's set to the music of some Jackson Five song. VERY amusing.

[The Gaffer]

Nader is at it again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7261670.stm

The odds on McCain just shortened.

[sisterandcousinandaunt]

what an idiot

[Mari]

Just read the article on Nader and I noticed that he is using the exact same words as the politicians in the opposition here concerning the current government: that they listen too much to the corporate world and don't care enough about "the people". Do you suppose they (the politicians uttering these words) think this will win "the people" for their cause? I don't know too much about American economics, but here the economy is finally getting better again.

[Haradrim]

I think what most of them are talking about are lobbying groups and other corporate companies which lobby congress towards passing laws that benefit only the companies instead of thinking about people. The thing is companies pretend they cant make their cars or plants more eco-friendly or create more jobs, but they have enough money where these things are possible. But the companies nickel and dime everything so they can afford to basically pay off congress to not pass laws against them. Im a big fan of big business but im not a fan of big business dictating my government.

[Nurvingiel]

For added context Mari, the American economy is in recession right now. (One might argue it's just heading into recession, but either way it's absolutely in the toilet.)

I don't think it's Ralph Nader's fault that Al Gore lost. If someone chooses to vote for someone other than you, it's your fault for not being good enough. I don't think I've ever heard Gore blame Nader, correct me if I'm wrong.

Hector, who do you like now in the race? You had such a great run-down of the candidates at the beginning of this thread I'm interested to hear you like/still like now.

[The Gaffer]

It's just too much of a coincidence that when Ross Perot ran as an independent rightwinger, the Republicans lost (Clinton vs Bush Sr was it?), whereas when Nader ran as an independent left-winger, the Democrats lost.

But people seem to be saying that he won't attract the same amount of support this time.

[Insidious Rex]

Originally Posted by The Gaffer

It's just too much of a coincidence that when Ross Perot ran as an independent rightwinger, the Republicans lost (Clinton vs Bush Sr was it?), whereas when Nader ran as an independent left-winger, the Democrats lost.

The independent thing is actually more of a symptom then a cause. You tend to see independents run when there is discontent with the current state of the party (generally of the sitting president but not always). Because theres more discontent for Republicans then Democrats this year Im sure Nader's candidacy will be meaningless. And the radical shift of a McCain candidacy might be enough to keep an independent from popping up on the conservative side.

The real cause of the demise of Gore was not Nader necessarily but the many many democrats who were turned off by Clinton and/or who bought into the “compassionate conservative” nonsense and voted for Bush. So to blame Nader for Gore’s loss (despite it being technically true in Florida) shows a sense of denial. Clinton and the swing democrats demand more of the blame.