06-22-2006, 04:56 PM | #81 | |
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That is rude in my book.
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06-22-2006, 05:10 PM | #82 |
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Yeah, this thread is gonna get locked, I can just hear those keys jingling.
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06-22-2006, 05:29 PM | #83 | |
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You speak as as if this is fact, egyptilogy is highly specaulative; admittedly so by the egyptologists themselves. So this is the preblem, we have been having. Your constantly dismissing the info and attacking me instead of saying; Well I don't believe that because from my experience such and such...why do you say that, why do you agree. That's why the audio is attached, because I was the caller from brooklyn NY that day and those where my points; the reason I believe or was convinced. I would have told you that and would have moved on from there awhile back. And get your reactions to the audio and then move on from there instead we waste time talking about nefertiti and the like.
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06-22-2006, 05:52 PM | #84 | |
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Lets try this again!!!
You said she said yadayadayda.....
Whatever...I posted my replies and you guys seem to think people can't read. It is there for everyone to read. Now lets debate with out the name calling. You can talk about timelines if you want, but start out by saying, I am a total loon and that "my" info is bunkers then, this is not going to last long. Now here is Alsadawi's Point of view, the key to it is that he believes to understand an ancient culture you most understand it's spoken language. In this he had a great advantage, he was a native born egyptian: Quote:
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06-22-2006, 06:16 PM | #85 | |
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The truth about mainstream egyptology!!!
Since you keep harping on it as if it is the bible, here is something you did not mention beardypants and eflhelm.
You should be familiar with the roseta stone. It is what modern egyptologists have based the dicyphering of the glyphs on. However, the major problem with that is, the stone is a grave stone. Imagine decyphering english from grave stones, with the irregular used words and grammar so as to sound high and regal in the discriptions of the dead; it could not, be done. Below is further evidence from an actual egyptologists: Quote:
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06-22-2006, 06:31 PM | #86 | |
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I am firing more turpedos!!!
As to your comments about this guy being a crack pot, well here is his bio:
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06-22-2006, 06:37 PM | #87 | |
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Here is a de-bunking from four years ago by J. D de Greef
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06-22-2006, 06:40 PM | #88 | |
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Which supports what I said yesterday.
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06-22-2006, 06:46 PM | #89 | |
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What I posted about the rosetta stone refutes that, vigorously. Infact you are very clever because this same thing is a part of the forums on alsadawis site. In that debate the overwhelming contention was that he was right, so what you are doing here is simply taking things out of context.
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06-22-2006, 06:53 PM | #90 | |
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06-22-2006, 06:58 PM | #91 | |
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Where is your independent information of this issue besides what I have posted. Did, or did you not get this from the forum I am talking about or do I have to post the link here!!!!! What, your trying to be clever, play word games with a writer is a dangerous profession my friend, as you should well know by now.(please try not to insult my intelligence further)
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06-22-2006, 07:06 PM | #93 |
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You still have not responded to my PM!!
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This time I will bold some things, because I know you didn't read it because you replied too fast.
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06-22-2006, 07:21 PM | #96 |
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Here is a link to some of de Greef's own work. This is what I call scholarly.
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Firstly, while I have an interest in ancient history I'm pretty much an amateur and truth be told much of this linguistic talk is over my head, so I'm going about it nice and simple.
So Telcontarion, if I read that article right, between the many exclamation marks, this Alsaadawi fellow, a self-taught hieroglyph-reader, couldn't read hieroglyphs the traditional way and ergo decided the traditional way was wrong. Not only was it wrong, but he himself also has found the 'true' way of reading hieroglyphs. The question that I find myself asking then is: what have egyptologists have been reading all those years, ever since Champollion? This better not be another conspiracy. Elfhelm, thanks for digging up that article by de Greef, it's always interesting to hear from the opposite party. I didn't get everything but what I did get was interesting. Maybe I should show this to my bigsis who's in the field and probably can explain to me, using small words. And lastly, a friendly word from your moderator: We all like debate but there be rules to follow and they'll be enforced. Attack arguments, not people. That goes for everyone.
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06-22-2006, 07:26 PM | #98 | |
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So, let me get this straight. You had no original information on the subject yet you have been refuiting me, all this time. Saying how ridiculous my claims (as if they where) where, yet you had no refernce at all for all that you were saying? You had to go to the forums I indicated to get something, what would you have done to back up your claims if I had not mentioned the forum. Poor poor you.
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06-22-2006, 07:37 PM | #99 | |
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What you said sounded like a play on words again, or you miss read so I will clearify. He did not make up anything. When you say he said he "couldn't read hieroglyphs the traditional way" he was recounting how he discovered the problem that all egyptologists have, when deciphereing the glyphs using said technique. It wasn't just him. I thought honestly that this was clear, especially with all the other things I have posted. It was his quest to find out a more sure and definate way of translation that lead him to his discoveries. Quite simple. I appreciate the comments and guidance from the moderators very, very much as well. Well appreciated and thank you.
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; Last edited by The Telcontarion : 06-22-2006 at 07:40 PM. |
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At last real debate!!!!
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