Independence day!!!

[sun-star]

This is a fun thread. Always nice to know how much you're hated

*takes off evil colonialist hat* I know it's a bit late, but Happy Independence Day, America!

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by HOBBIT
..... but if there were any Canadian troops involved in burning the White House they only were there because they were loyal subjects of Great Britain. ....

or they could have been conscripts. I remember reading that the Brits used to conscript people and if you didn't fight with them, they hung you as a deserter or a traitor.

...Maybe they marched down from Canada? Still, they were British. I think they came in from the east coast to attack Washington DC if I remember correctly though....

I think the Brittish attacked the east coast from ships.

Great school systems up there then - teaching false History....(... - mostly full of ice , beavers, and mouse)....

I think that you are right. My Canadian relatives always claim that they did this and they did that, when it was Brittish troops and they were back on the farms.
And hey.... you have to watch out for those Canadian mice. LOL

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Let me set some records straight here....

....Third - as has been stated - Napolean was not defeated prior to Britain attacking us. Actually we were on the side of Napolean since they were fighting the British and we were fighting the British. Thanks to Napolean's army - Britain could not unleash their full military on us. Also thanks to Napolean - we got the Louisiana Terroritory (prior to the war) - which makes up half of the continental United States....

Ah... well, you know I'm a horrible history student.

I'll go back and edit so as not to confuse anyone.

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by sun-star
This is a fun thread. Always nice to know how much you're hated ....

We don't hate you. Just stop calling us 'the colonies', or we will have to open up a can of whoop @$$ on you again. (joking)

[Radagast The Brown]

Happy Birthday USA! (is that an eagle in my avatar?)

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Happy Birthday USA! (is that an eagle in my avatar?)

Yeah - this is the original picture...



I took out the background and had to shrink it.

[sun-star]

Originally posted by Ruinel
We don't hate you. Just stop calling us 'the colonies', or we will have to open up a can of whoop @$$ on you again. (joking)

ooh, I'm so scared...

[Lief Erikson]

Happy fourth of July, everyone ! Actually, it's over, here. But it has been a part of a four day weekend for me, which is very enjoyable .

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Second - We did not attack you until Britain attacked us. Britain got us into the War of 1812 - and since you were/are a British possession - they were using you for supplies, also to attack our northern border. It made perfect sense for us to attack you.

It was the British that were the ones who started the Revolutionary War, as well. I know this has nothing to do with the War of 1812, but I enjoy talking about it, anyway .

There was a lot of build up and antagonism on both sides, the British wanting to save face and the Americans not wanting to have their freedoms taken from them. But in the end, it was the British that opened fire on Charleston and burned it to the ground, and attacked Bunker's Hill. John Dickenson actually got another petition through the Continental Congress, begging King George to keep the peace and saying that they were loyal colonists to him. By then, however, George looked upon them as rebels, and decided to treat them as such. Even though they hadn't openly rebelled until after the British attack and declaration that they were already in rebellion, and must be treated as enemies.

[jerseydevil]

What actually inflamed the colonies in the fight for independence was Benjamin Franklin's meeting with King George. Franklin wanted to bring peace - as did most of the colonists. But then Franklin was so humiliated in England that he completely did a 180. He even disownded his favorite son William - who was the last Royal Governor of New Jersey. Before Franklin got involved - it was basically mob mentality. Ben Franklins suport for indepence basically brought about the Declaration of Independence. It was a tough battle to get the colonies to agree to break away from England.

Also - Charleston didn't take place until th revolution was well underway in 1780. The first half of the revolution was purely in the north. Britain's goal was to capture Philadelphia and NY - which they did - and attempt to cut the colonies in half and choke off supplies. But then in 1778 America forced them out of NJ and back to NY.

I was going to go to the reenactment of the British being forced out of NJ today at Sandy Hook - but I got tied up in other things. Road to Monmouth

It wasn't until after 1778 that Britain decided to turn it's attention to the south.

This seems to be a good site - although I didn't look at it fully - American Revolution It has timelines and so forth - as well as links to other Revolutionary War websites.