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03-16-2003, 10:36 AM | #63 |
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Freddie! Purple and Pink day! Angry admin wrath!
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man, alive, look at what you people do when im away....
speaking of changing titles....
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Luth- So, you live in Canada?
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And back to the topic of this thread (I feel naked) Dúnedain, is that your special way of celebrating spring? *tries desperately not to picture D skipping naked through the forest*
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03-17-2003, 09:45 AM | #70 |
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Such comments as "Americans are a shallow people".
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But there have been similar comments made about all nationalities who post here (basically all anyway). It's stereotypical references which are obviously not helpful, but I still maintain that most of these type of remarks are made in the heat of the moment & do not necessarily reflect a person's orientation toward a country or it's people as a whole.
Some of these remarks are also provoked unwittingly (for instance the English language does not have a plural for "you" so I have noticed many a time that just that little thing causes a big frackas because people read it as a personal attack). And yes the example you posted is a bit derogratory, but I think it was aimed a specific person not all Americans.
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But anyway, I don't know about here, but other places I go, I've heard people say that America is the only evil in the world, and other people say that they hate America; also that Americans are almost all idiots who just live off a very few intelligent people (around the average intelligence for other countries, I believe). I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes there isn't much benefit left to give.
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If I'm not mistaken that was posted by Sween in the greatest ambition thread some time ago when the topic turned a bit & became of travelling. Keep in mind that he was talking of personal experience of the people he had met and not all Americans.
Also a lot of what people are saying is based on what is portrayed in the media & also the current events - Iraq for one. The whole world is up in arms (so to speak) about the issue & the majority of the people around the world do not want to engage in war - I think people are just generally tired of bloodshed, yet because of George Bush's statements it seems that he is being purposely obtuse. Not only is he ignoring the comments from the rest of the world, but also of his own people as there are many Americans who are also opposing the war efforts. As a result the anger / resentment against him is spilling over in the world's view of your country - also he is the leader of the country and as such people identify his weaknesses with that of the country because we will always have it in the back of our minds that he was elected by the people and thus they must somehow agree with his stance. Besides, they can't directly speak to the man, so they do the next best thing... I fully sympathise with you though, it's not easy being objective when you are constantly being bombarded by such remarks. We still get it all the time too, because I happen to be a white South African many people automatically assume I am racist because of what they had heard via the international media (which never portrays the full story anyway)
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Many Americans are opposed, yes, but more are for. Can't do what everyone wants at once very well.
Of course it doesn't. Dern media.
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03-17-2003, 02:03 PM | #75 | |
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Also, we don't need to listen to the world to protect our people and avoid 9/11 from happening again....
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Anyway "goblin" may not be the right word. What do you call those mischivious little creatures that come in the night when everyone is asleep and get up to all sorts of trouble then when you wake up you see the mess theyve made. Thats what its like to us Americans who are asleep while yer awake and busy on here. But perhaps crazy little demon would be more appropriate.
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Oh that reminds me we were talking about renaming certain foods earlier. Did anyone see Saturday Night Live last weekend? Apparently they did a spoof about that and the french were renaming certain things and they said the "american cheese" would now be called "idiot cheese". *laugh* See we can mock ourselves too. So we cant be all that ignorant and monolithic dont you think?
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I also agree with Gwaimir Windgem and Dúnedain - 65% of Americans support Bush's stand and support military action. A poll just came out also indicated that less than 50% of Americans have a favoriable opinion of the UN now. The UN has never been required to conduct military action. Some how France has convinced the world that it is.
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