Oldest living Elf in ME... - Page 3

Radagast The Brown · 01-10-2004, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Stern
He doesn't specifically state that they were creatures, only 'things'...

Tell that to the Hebrew translator. It was translated as 'creatures'. I think Tolkien did mean creatures.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-10-2004, 03:12 PM

Were the Maiar created at the same time as the Valar?

Arien the Maia · 01-10-2004, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Were the Maiar created at the same time as the Valar?

weren't all the Ainur created at the same time? some of them just weren't as powerful I suppose

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-08-2004, 07:44 PM

i was always under the impression that the balrogs were maiar too,
sort of lesser servants of morgoth, with sauron as their lieutenant or something ... tell me if i'm terribly mistaken, though

Bombadillo · 03-08-2004, 08:37 PM

I apoligize to anyone expecting me to contribute to the conversation, but did anyone else imagine Antonio Banderas saying: "As far as I know, I am the oldest, living Aaolve, in the world."

***Valandil*** · 03-09-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
I don't know, I just quoted it. Gandalf should know though, he is a maia imself after all.

Unless... Gandalf was just pulling their legs!

***Valandil*** · 03-09-2004, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
i was always under the impression that the balrogs were maiar too,
sort of lesser servants of morgoth, with sauron as their lieutenant or something ... tell me if i'm terribly mistaken, though

Yes, I believe that's correct. The list of Maiar is pretty broad: Sauron, Balrogs, the Istari, Melian (maybe even old Tom B!) ... plus certain others we're specifically told about (like that couple that worked with Ulmo... Uinen and 'whatsisname'...). Even within the Istari, we see a sort of hierarchy - so it wouldn't be surprising if in general the Maiar varied widely in power and position.

**Nurvingiel** · 03-09-2004, 03:31 AM

Speaking of old Elves, why was Cirdan the only Elf with a beard?

Artanis · 03-09-2004, 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Speaking of old Elves, why was Cirdan the only Elf with a beard?

Wasn't it because Tolkien put a beard on him in LotR, but later decided that Elves do not have facial hair?

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03-08-2004, 08:37 PM	#45
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Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i was always under the impression that the balrogs were maiar too, sort of lesser servants of morgoth, with sauron as their lieutenant or something ... tell me if i'm terribly mistaken, though