Weird, stupid question concerning cloning - Page 3

Ruinel · 05-12-2003, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Baby-K
My favourite kind of guy is the one who will go the ends of the earth for me ..............and stay there

Isn't it nice when they're obedient?

Yes, seriously, though... I wouldn't do that either... I'm just playing.

Guys have feelings too.

Baby-K · 05-12-2003, 09:23 AM

Yeah & we all know where most of those feelings are

The world certainly would be a better place if some of them used their big brains more than their small ones

But I won't carry on spamming & I don't want to turn this into a man bashing thread, so I'll shut up, 'cept to say:

Men are like ... Bananas
The older they get, the less firm they are

Men are like ... Weather
Nothing can be done to change them

Men are like ... Blenders
You need one, but you're not quite sure why

Men are like ... Coffee
The best ones are rich, warm and can keep you awake all night

Men are like ... Commercials
You can't believe a word they say

Men are like ... Horoscopes
They always tell you what to do and are usually wrong

Men are like ... Mascara
They usually run at the first sign of emotion

Men are like ... Popcorn
They satisfy you, but only for a little while

Men are like ... Lava lamps
Fun to look at, but not very bright

Men are like ... Government bonds
They take so long to mature

Aw boys, I'm just kidding! I love you guys....

And I hope if anyone gets cloned it will be some of the fine specimens............., erm ok I cannot lie

Insidious Rex · 05-12-2003, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
It wasn't a statement... "they're not..." it was a question... "they're (men are) not?" ....
You said ...

and my response is... I thought that's what guys were for... ... objects to be used for pleasure, treated as meat and to be exploited....

.... am I wrong?

yer so often confused by my twisted humor that i just assume now that you arent picking up on it. especially when you have like 8 confused smilies in the post and no winkie knowing smilies.

Sminty_Smeagol · 05-12-2003, 05:24 PM

what makes us an individual is our DNA and our experiences. That is all we are. Right? and how our DNA self responds the the experiences and developes based on then. SO to clone someone, ideally, we would require the exact same life lived by that person... which is impossible (as whoever, a few posts above me, was saying) yeah I've thought about that... sucks

Ruinel · 05-12-2003, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
yer so often confused by my twisted humor that i just assume now that you arent picking up on it. especially when you have like 8 confused smilies in the post and no winkie knowing smilies.

I have a sick sense of humor also...

But yes, sometimes I have no idea what you are getting at...
so...

...is that good for you? 'Cuz I got more if ya want it.

Just say when....

......

Insidious Rex · 05-12-2003, 07:19 PM

more more!!

Ruinel · 05-12-2003, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
more more!!

well... I'd better ease up... too much of a good thing and all that. After a while, they'd have to call an ambulance to come revive you. Then it'd be prison time for me, using a deadly weapon and all that. Surely you wouldn't want that for me, now would you? *pouty lips and puppy eyes*

Insidious Rex · 05-12-2003, 07:41 PM

well if i gotta die its the way to go i figure.

Ruinel · 05-12-2003, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
well if i gotta die its the way to go i figure.

lol!

Estel13 · 08-10-2003, 06:33 PM

Well, I recently had a disturbing thought, that being: if humans ever did clone another homo sapien, someone would say that the clone(s) had no rights because they weren't born naturally, so, in essence, we would have created a slave race. Do I just think too much, or what?

Insidious Rex · 08-10-2003, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Estel13
Well, I recently had a disturbing thought, that being: if humans ever did clone another homo sapien, someone would say that the clone(s) had no rights because they weren't born naturally, so, in essence, we would have created a slave race. Do I just think too much, or what?

Im pretty sure there was a book and/or a movie about that.

Seton,Lothlorien Guardian · 08-10-2003, 08:56 PM

I would think they would be raised in a confined area, and (I know this is mean, but..)when they came of age we would strip them of their organs,blood, and tissue and give them to real people who needed them to live. And scientists (sp?) would have a never ending supply of cells to work with (ie stem cells).
And we could clone muscular persons and have them farm and make stuff.
The bummer to all of this is it takes 15-30years for someone to come of age. And thats a hefty amount of cash for food,water, and (maybe) clothing (unless it was generic pinto beans and celery)
But it would hopefully pay for itself in the end.
Whoa.. too much info

But isnt that the point of this cloning buisness?

afro-elf · 08-11-2003, 02:51 AM

Mirazhi wrote:

For example:
Two A (Capital letter indicates a dominant gene) genes will produce.. blonde hair.
An A and an a will also produce blond hair.
And, two a (lower case letter indicates recessive gene) genes will produce brown hair.

It may have been just an example, but but the details were in error.

blonde is NOT a dominant gene

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2284783.stm

Nature produces clones- indentical twins.

http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/20...9/8527-ap.html

Sheeana · 08-11-2003, 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by Seton,Lothlorien Guardian
The bummer to all of this is it takes 15-30years for someone to come of age. And thats a hefty amount of cash for food,water, and (maybe) clothing (unless it was generic pinto beans and celery)
But it would hopefully pay for itself in the end.

First of all: it would be unethical to enclose a cloned human. Second, it would be unethical to enclose a cloned human until they're 30, and then harvest their organs. Third, you would not have to clone a whole human to harvest the organs. They've already reached this stage, I believe.

wahine · 08-11-2003, 05:10 PM

Someone asked the question:

If a clone is killed, is it murder?

Interesting question/topic thing. I mean, I think some people look at the idea of a clone as some sort of cyborg. I don't think so, I think it's probably more like a twin born after you are. This person (Who is, by all accounts, you) has feelings, a mind, a will. It lives (in theory) breathes, has hopes and desires (I would think). I would count it nothing less than murder.

Of course, there has been some discussion about, say a woman wants to clone herself, but SHE wants to carry the child (being) to term, would that make the child her sister or her daughter?

I depise the very idea of cloning, it shouldn't be done in my opinion.

Sheeana · 08-11-2003, 05:23 PM

A horse just gave birth to her own clone recently.

Seton,Lothlorien Guardian · 08-11-2003, 05:44 PM

Quote:

First of all: it would be unethical to enclose a cloned human. Second, it would be unethical to enclose a cloned human until they're 30, and then harvest their organs. Third, you would not have to clone a whole human to harvest the organs. They've already reached this stage, I believe.

Jeez, just posting an idea.
But I agree with you

afro-elf · 08-11-2003, 10:34 PM

Quote:

I depise the very idea of cloning, it shouldn't be done in my opinion

Even cloning your own organs so that there would not be organ donor rejection?

I personally would not mind having my own personal slave... err clone of wahine and she-bop

Estel13 · 08-12-2003, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
Im pretty sure there was a book and/or a movie about that.

Really? Well, if there was, I didn't read/see it. But I don't really care for the idea of cloning, anyway.

wahine · 08-23-2003, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by afro-elf
Even cloning your own organs so that there would not be organ donor rejection?

I personally would not mind having my own personal slave... err clone of wahine and she-bop

Hmmm, well it'll seem like I'm riding the fence here, but organs are possible--I suppose...but not replicas of humans. It's creepy and disconcerting.

Who said you needed a clone for a slave, instead of the original!? (Of she-bop)

05-12-2003, 09:23 AM	#42
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Yeah & we all know where most of those feelings are The world certainly would be a better place if some of them used their big brains more than their small ones But I won't carry on spamming & I don't want to turn this into a man bashing thread, so I'll shut up, 'cept to say: Men are like ... Bananas The older they get, the less firm they are Men are like ... Weather Nothing can be done to change them Men are like ... Blenders You need one, but you're not quite sure why Men are like ... Coffee The best ones are rich, warm and can keep you awake all night Men are like ... Commercials You can't believe a word they say Men are like ... Horoscopes They always tell you what to do and are usually wrong Men are like ... Mascara They usually run at the first sign of emotion Men are like ... Popcorn They satisfy you, but only for a little while Men are like ... Lava lamps Fun to look at, but not very bright Men are like ... Government bonds They take so long to mature Aw boys, I'm just kidding! I love you guys.... And I hope if anyone gets cloned it will be some of the fine specimens............., erm ok I cannot lie __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

05-12-2003, 05:24 PM	#44
Sminty_Smeagol Manic Cardboard-Box Dweller Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In a house Posts: 1,071	what makes us an individual is our DNA and our experiences. That is all we are. Right? and how our DNA self responds the the experiences and developes based on then. SO to clone someone, ideally, we would require the exact same life lived by that person... which is impossible (as whoever, a few posts above me, was saying) yeah I've thought about that... sucks __________________ I love the fishes.

05-12-2003, 07:19 PM	#46
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	more more!! __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

05-12-2003, 07:41 PM	#48
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	well if i gotta die its the way to go i figure. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

08-10-2003, 06:33 PM	#50
Estel13 RPG-aholic Psycho Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Final Fantasy Posts: 733	Well, I recently had a disturbing thought, that being: if humans ever did clone another homo sapien, someone would say that the clone(s) had no rights because they weren't born naturally, so, in essence, we would have created a slave race. Do I just think too much, or what? __________________

08-10-2003, 08:56 PM	#52
Seton,Lothlorien Guardian Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Under the trees Posts: 36	I would think they would be raised in a confined area, and (I know this is mean, but..)when they came of age we would strip them of their organs,blood, and tissue and give them to real people who needed them to live. And scientists (sp?) would have a never ending supply of cells to work with (ie stem cells). And we could clone muscular persons and have them farm and make stuff. The bummer to all of this is it takes 15-30years for someone to come of age. And thats a hefty amount of cash for food,water, and (maybe) clothing (unless it was generic pinto beans and celery) But it would hopefully pay for itself in the end. Whoa.. too much info But isnt that the point of this cloning buisness? __________________ "...Perhaps it would be best if you just say nothing at all" -Gandalf. "Some who die deserve life, and some who live deserve death" -Gandalf. "We do not stop until nightfall," "What about breakfast?," "We already had it," "We've had one, yes. What about two?"

08-11-2003, 02:51 AM	#53
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	blonde is NOT a dominant gene Mirazhi wrote: For example: Two A (Capital letter indicates a dominant gene) genes will produce.. blonde hair. An A and an a will also produce blond hair. And, two a (lower case letter indicates recessive gene) genes will produce brown hair. It may have been just an example, but but the details were in error. blonde is NOT a dominant gene http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2284783.stm Nature produces clones- indentical twins. http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/20...9/8527-ap.html __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 08-11-2003 at 02:55 AM.

08-11-2003, 05:10 PM	#55
wahine The Original Amazonian Coconut Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Answering no questions, telling no lies. Posts: 753	Someone asked the question: If a clone is killed, is it murder? Interesting question/topic thing. I mean, I think some people look at the idea of a clone as some sort of cyborg. I don't think so, I think it's probably more like a twin born after you are. This person (Who is, by all accounts, you) has feelings, a mind, a will. It lives (in theory) breathes, has hopes and desires (I would think). I would count it nothing less than murder. Of course, there has been some discussion about, say a woman wants to clone herself, but SHE wants to carry the child (being) to term, would that make the child her sister or her daughter? I depise the very idea of cloning, it shouldn't be done in my opinion. __________________ Hem, hem

08-11-2003, 05:23 PM	#56
Sheeana Lord of the Pants Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,382	Speaking of giving birth to clones.... A horse just gave birth to her own clone recently.

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