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The Blobbit
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I adore that quote!!!
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Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton. |
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Democracy is the worst form of government... except for all the others.
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The Blobbit
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Gee way to tell 'em one of the answers...
Oh, gee to tell them one of the answers is one of the answers...
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Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton. |
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![]() The programme on Churchill's rhetoric the other night was very interesting. Alongside the more obvious points (repetition: we shall fight on the beaches...; change of register: give us the tools and we shall finish the job, etc.) they discussed how in his speeches he created an ideal image of Britain for the whole nation to unite around, based on its naval and island identity, Shakespeare's history plays, the rural lifestyle etc... which of course were on their last gasp by WW2. Fascinating.
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At the moment I'm trying to finish Churchill's A history of English speaking peoples II: The New World since I've left it on the backburner for too long.
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sun-star, you mention the fact he used the navy. Do you think someone else without his background could have created such an image?
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Churchill was simply fabulous at this. *standing ovation*
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Theres an excellet book on the linquistics of the Nazi's. It's a tome for those in languages and shows how they used language and it's nuances to sway people. Churchill created vivid images and was able to relate to common men and women with those.
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Yet also... it's not just a myth or an image. During World War Two that twenty miles of sea between here and France really was the difference between freedom and tyranny - life and death. To be honest, I think you (that's Janny) and I should understand this better than anyone. Go and look across the sea. That's France. That was occupied territory. That was how close they came. No wonder he made a big deal of the sea.
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Nancy Astor once said to Churchill 'Winston, if you were my husband, I would put poison in your tea!', to which Churchill replied 'Nancy, my dear, if I were married to you, then I would most certainly drink it!'
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In case you're ever looking for something to do in London:
Churchill museum opens The Cabinet War Rooms is pretty cool too.
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I've been to the war rooms and they were worth every anticipated moment. To be where history was created felt amazing.
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