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hmm first of all ive seen it a few times now and after the first showing i mainly went to see the last samurai and RotK trailers which were both undoubtedly better than revolutions itself...
Main dissapointment was the lack of Marilyn Manson ![]() it would make sense to have Zion a part of the matrix for the small percentage of rebels that didnt accept the matrix, just somewhere they could be so they didnt cause a fuss... a lot of the answer to questions like where did the machines come from were not found in the movies but in the animatrix. a lot of people have had difficulty understanding it but i think if you have watched the animatrix and the three movies then you should be able to understand or infer what is going on... i agree with JD that Agent Smith is another anomalie like Neo, and so i think that Neo could have lived if Agent Smith was destroyed. Another program would have been written to balance the equation soon enough. Seraph and Mifune were undoubtedly the stars of this movie... i loved morpheus' line just before Neo left for the machine city, something like 'the honor is still mine' a little reference from the first movie... Trinity's death scene sucked as much as her little run to neo at the trainstation, and one of my friends actually cried... i think it made since to end in peace it sort of amazed me that the humans kept up the war after the machines were so much more advanced, the machines were the peaceful ones... Loved the scene with the merovingian but i dont think they needed to splay out the scene at the trainstation it was just another program nothing special... Persephone should have been in it lots and i was looking out for the twins but again im dissapointed it wasnt that i didnt think they gave answers as much as they were unsatisfying and dissapointing, i thought that this trilogy has just gone downhill since the first movie... the second one was great and i was hoping for a grear finale but i wasnt really expecting it.... i would tell people just to go for the Last Samurai, and RotK trailers... they are going to be great movies
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ohhh dont get me wrong Revolutions was a great movie but i just expected better... im sure JD, and correct me if im wrong, but do you dislike lord of the rings more because it could have or you expected it to be a lot better. im still a fan of the matrix and it is that which made me even more sad
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Matrix and sequels...
Matrix was an excellent movie.
Re-Loaded was sh... crap, and Revolutions little better. A case of trying to milk a buck from a good movie. It reminds me of Highlander and its two sequels. ![]() And I said as much over on the Last Free City site.
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If you want to find out more about the history of the Matrix and the war between humans and machines you should try to find the manga. I haven't read it, but I've been told about it and it explains quite a bit. I'm not sure how much Revolutions goes into, since I'm seeing it tonight, but it discusses how the war began and such.
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haven't carefully read this thread, but what is "the manga"
Again, this movie did not suck. And it was not 'horrible' as some of my friends at school have said. There is no plausible reason for declaring it a horrible movie. Little things don't count, it was still an awesome movie. This girl at school was all "it was horrible! nothing happened" um yeah, something happened "all they did was shoot at machines for an hour" so? that was one of the coolest battle scenes. "neo wasn't in it.. he had like no screen time" of course he was in it! not much you can show while he is on his way to the oracle. "what was the point of trainstation" "made no sense" "last fight scene sucked - same exact coreography from first matrix (neo vs smith in revolutions same as neo vs morpheus in first one)" Uhm no, but martial arts is very similiar. They did the hand thing on purpose. That scene was cool as well! Another big complaint was that "morpheus was barely in it." Well, he isn't as major a character as in the first matrix, but thats ok. His purpose is to find the one. He is the spiritual guy who believes in the prophecy. His belief causes others to believe. The matrix universe gets larger in the second two - we know what zion is and there are hundreds more ships. In the first film all we are aware of is the crew of the Nebachanezer. Morpheus is an important character still in Revolutions. The movie isn't about him though. Those are just some idiotic comments...... it did not suck. I did not think it was great either. It was a GOOD movie, enjoyable to watch. Not as good as the original, but what can you do? YOU DONT TRASH IT. But really, what was the purpose of the trainstation??. Yes, yes the scene was there to show that programs have feelings and a families and children with a concept of love and karma BUT what is the point of the station itself? They don't really explain it well. I gather that it is a what the Merovingian uses to smuggle programs in and out of matrix, but why out? Why is that family in the trainstation? Makes little sense, but just small criticism from me
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I think the point of the trainstation was really just to show how machines can "love" too and all that stuff. And so they could have the Merovingian in the scene.
And that same girl who hated the movie also hates jazz music and Pulp Fiction. So don't listen to her. And you forgot another one of her quotes: "the Merovingian is stupid. he's French, so he must be stupid. and gay. the scenes with him are stupid and pointless" |
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*smacks Tristan around the head*
Use that brain in yer head for a change instead of just shooting off. How dare you dictate what other peoples tastes are supposed to be! Movies are, and will always be, of a subjective nature. Just because you think it's the bee's knees (or almost), doesn't mean that everyone else is supposed to. That said: the movie sucked ass. The fight scene scene - the culmination of everything - sucked. The script (like the others) sucked. There were scenes that were just completely extraneous! I ask again: what is so great about Neo becoming Christ personified? It's been DONE. I will grant that the train scene wasn't completely useless though - machines can apparently 'love', and that goes along way towards explaining why Neo didn't just let the Smith virus wipe out the machines... rather, letting the matrix live on. Gnrrr, this moved sucked more than LOTR, and that's saying something. I want a refund. ![]() |
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I got a refund
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i really enjoyed revolutions. i mean there are some people who i know and they said it was okay. the one thing that dissapointed me it that there was not much of a resolution. and they cant make another movie entirely of resolution. the best part had to be when all the APUs i thnk they are called were fighting. and the graphics was pretty nuts.
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