What constitutes sex for you? - Page 2

johnnyrod · 12-03-2003, 11:17 PM

There is a point to determining this is there? I know AE's posts can be a little mysterious.

For my twopenn'th, God knows, I have a girlfriend and if I go beyond a bit of flirtation I know she'll be pissed off.

Insidious Rex · 12-04-2003, 12:02 AM

Ive heard that several times now. so are we determing what people consider cheating or what people consider sex? I think they are two vastly different things.

(wasnt there a thread about cheating at one point?)

Starr Polish · 12-04-2003, 01:11 AM

I thought we were talking about what constitutes as sex.

A LOT of things can constitute as cheating, since emotional affairs are alive and well. Connecting with someone in a more than platonic way while in a romantic relationship with another is cheating, even if it's holding hands or a quick kiss (but ONLy if it isn't platonic...I hug a lot of my guy friends, but it's friendly and I have no intentions of implying romance or whatnot in them...)

And sorry, SGH, if I was going out of bounds.

afro-elf · 12-04-2003, 02:13 AM

Star Polish it on something. The virginity issue. If a female's virginity is intact even if she is engaged in other activities would you consider her to have had sex?

Yes there's thread about cheating also.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 12-04-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
Star Polish it on something. The virginity issue. If a female's virginity is intact even if she is engaged in other activities would you consider her to have had sex?

I would have to say no. I was brought up to believe that one is a virgin until intercourse, bottom line. No amount of kissing, touching, or otherwise, takes away your virginity.

Another point- I was also taught that when you marry, you wear a white wedding gown which signifies purity, meaning virginity. I know most people probably indulge in premarital sex, but still wear a white wedding gown. I have also seen women that take the plunge twice wearing white, and I know they aren't virgins.

Artanis · 12-04-2003, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I would have to say no. I was brought up to believe that one is a virgin until intercourse, bottom line. No amount of kissing, touching, or otherwise, takes away your virginity.

Agreed. But then a virgin may very well have had sex. I consider sex to be every means of kissing or touching the intimate parts of the body.

Ruinel · 12-04-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
The virginity issue. If a female's virginity is intact even if she is engaged in other activities would you consider her to have had sex?

I had a roommate in college that had done everything with her bf, except vaginal penetration. And when I say "everything", I mean she had done things I wouldn't do (as someone who had given up her virginity), and still have no desire to do. Yet she claimed to be a virgin... and technically, yes, she still had her "virginity" in tact.

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-04-2003, 05:48 PM

SGH: I seem to remember that it was actually the veil the represented virginity, with a somewhat more "literal" symbolism. Not sure 'bout that, though...

Ruinel · 12-04-2003, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
SGH: I seem to remember that it was actually the veil the represented virginity, with a somewhat more "literal" symbolism. Not sure 'bout that, though...

Nowadays I think the veil represents virginity... the veil covering the face. But originally, it was the white dress and in Catholicism... placing a rose at the feet of the virgin by the bride. (You better watch your bride, Gwai

... or maybe you too should place a rose at the virgin's feet.

)

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-04-2003, 06:28 PM

Have ye ne'er heard o' the priesthood, Ru?

Ruinel · 12-04-2003, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Have ye ne'er heard o' the priesthood, Ru?

Are you going to be a priest?

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-04-2003, 07:04 PM

I doubt it. Just trying to keep ye on yer toes.

Ruinel · 12-04-2003, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I doubt it. Just trying to keep ye on yer toes.

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Could you word your remarks with a little less vulgarity please?

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Starr Polish · 12-05-2003, 12:48 AM

o.O...

I think society places too much into sex as it is. Some people say it's how they're intimate with someone they love, and how close they feel, and yadda yadda, but it's definitely not necessary for a romantic/intimate relationship. And there are other things that can replace it that (to me, anyway) seem just as intimate and emotionally fulfilling. Yeah, there's the phsyical side to it, but I guess that's just not too overly important to me. Not that it doesn't exist, mind you.

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-05-2003, 03:57 AM

Ru: I never said I planned to do that, either.

Spock · 12-05-2003, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Um, yeah, um, let's keep it clean folks.

"oh moderator moderator way up in the sky
what to post and wonder why
to close this post is best perhaps
else all is likely to go to crap"

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 12-05-2003, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Spock
"oh moderator moderator way up in the sky
what to post and wonder why
to close this post is best perhaps
else all is likely to go to crap"

Very good. I'm impressed.

I don't see a need to close it though. I'll just edit if I have to, and send bitchy PMs to people.

Ruinel · 12-05-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
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Could you word your remarks with a little less vulgarity please?

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What did I say that was so vulgar?

?????

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Ru: I never said I planned to do that, either.

You're not going to save your virginity for your wedding night? *shocked*

Ruinel · 12-05-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I don't see a need to close it though. I'll just edit if I have to, and send bitchy PMs to people.

Now look who's being vulgar.

And you didn't send me any bitchy PMs either.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 12-05-2003, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
Now look who's being vulgar. And you didn't send me any bitchy PMs either.

You mean YET!

12-03-2003, 11:17 PM	#21
johnnyrod Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scunthorpe, UK Posts: 166	There is a point to determining this is there? I know AE's posts can be a little mysterious. For my twopenn'th, God knows, I have a girlfriend and if I go beyond a bit of flirtation I know she'll be pissed off. __________________ Frodo Lives!

12-04-2003, 12:02 AM	#22
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Ive heard that several times now. so are we determing what people consider cheating or what people consider sex? I think they are two vastly different things. (wasnt there a thread about cheating at one point?) __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

12-04-2003, 01:11 AM	#23
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I thought we were talking about what constitutes as sex. A LOT of things can constitute as cheating, since emotional affairs are alive and well. Connecting with someone in a more than platonic way while in a romantic relationship with another is cheating, even if it's holding hands or a quick kiss (but ONLy if it isn't platonic...I hug a lot of my guy friends, but it's friendly and I have no intentions of implying romance or whatnot in them...) And sorry, SGH, if I was going out of bounds. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

12-04-2003, 02:13 AM	#24
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Star Polish it on something. The virginity issue. If a female's virginity is intact even if she is engaged in other activities would you consider her to have had sex? Yes there's thread about cheating also. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 12-04-2003 at 02:17 AM.

12-04-2003, 05:48 PM	#28
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	SGH: I seem to remember that it was actually the veil the represented virginity, with a somewhat more "literal" symbolism. Not sure 'bout that, though... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

12-04-2003, 06:28 PM	#30
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Have ye ne'er heard o' the priesthood, Ru? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

12-04-2003, 07:04 PM	#32
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I doubt it. Just trying to keep ye on yer toes. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

12-05-2003, 12:48 AM	#34
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	o.O... I think society places too much into sex as it is. Some people say it's how they're intimate with someone they love, and how close they feel, and yadda yadda, but it's definitely not necessary for a romantic/intimate relationship. And there are other things that can replace it that (to me, anyway) seem just as intimate and emotionally fulfilling. Yeah, there's the phsyical side to it, but I guess that's just not too overly important to me. Not that it doesn't exist, mind you. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

12-05-2003, 03:57 AM	#35
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Ru: I never said I planned to do that, either. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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