Arwen... - Page 2

Urksnik the Sleek · 08-16-2002, 07:14 AM

The fellowship was symbolically nine walkers to be set against the nine Nazgul.
Elrond did in fact consider sending members of his household as part of the fellowship, although not specifically Glorfindel, but Merry and Pippin insisted that they must go along or they would follow anyway, against his better judgement, Elrond eventually agreed.
I don't mind too much, Arwen's expanded role, but if PJ had sent her with the fellowship, I'd have certainly joned the lynch mob of LuthienTinuviel!

viggosbeard · 08-16-2002, 09:43 AM

Bropous - I agree with what you said , but im still a bit dubious on the Glorfindel point ( i know its off topic and weve had threads on it before ), Do we have a definitive answer to the question of " was Glorfindel the Bqalrog battler " or not ? According to my Middle Earth companion thingy by David Day, it was probably a different Elf.

As for the original question....the fellowship did not have much use for a good cross stitch, so im afraid Arwen was out !

On a more serious note, Arwen would have known that this task was not for her, as would Elrond, and there was never any chance of her joining the Fellowship.

Nilvasaien · 08-16-2002, 10:18 AM

viggosbeard posted:

"On a more serious note, Arwen would have known that this task was not for her, as would Elrond, and there was never any chance of her joining the Fellowship."

I agree; also PJ probably knew how far to go vis-a-vis expanding movie-Arwen's role so that those unfamiliar with the books could understand why Aragorn ends up with her, rather than with Eowyn.

cassiopeia · 08-17-2002, 02:22 AM

Peter Jackson knew that fans of the book would riot if Arwen joined the fellowship. He obviously values his life.

Blackheart · 08-17-2002, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Celebrian was kidnapped by orcs, not slain, as far as I can recall correctly. But she was so traumatised by it that she went west fairly early.

Heh heh- wink wink- nudge nudge

Gads. The only good part about Arwen being in the role she was placed in in the movie was that it gave me a good place to get up and go take a leak.

I get ill when I watch that part.

It reduces her from the daughter of one of the eldest living beings in middle earth, a princess in all but title, to some kind of flashy tart.

And no way in hell would Elrond have let her go traipsing off intot he wilds with strider boy, Especially since he objected to the union on principal.

Gah why bother.. I can't believe the thread starter is that ignorant. He's obviously just trolling for orks. I think I'll just start on him for an appetizer before I bite PJ's head off.

BeardofPants · 08-17-2002, 03:47 AM

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He's obviously just trolling for orks. I think I'll just start on him for an appetizer before I bite PJ's head off.

Sorry, he's mine.

(So *that's* where Celebrian went!

)

I just noticed in my 8th re-reading that Elrond and Arwen are supposed to be similar looking --- well, we know that Liv is a troll, but....

08-16-2002, 09:43 AM	#22
viggosbeard Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey Posts: 247	Bropous - I agree with what you said , but im still a bit dubious on the Glorfindel point ( i know its off topic and weve had threads on it before ), Do we have a definitive answer to the question of " was Glorfindel the Bqalrog battler " or not ? According to my Middle Earth companion thingy by David Day, it was probably a different Elf. As for the original question....the fellowship did not have much use for a good cross stitch, so im afraid Arwen was out ! On a more serious note, Arwen would have known that this task was not for her, as would Elrond, and there was never any chance of her joining the Fellowship. __________________ You cant resist her Shes in your bones Shes in your marrow And your ride home You cant avoid her Shes in the air In between molecules Of Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide Only in dreams

08-16-2002, 10:18 AM	#23
Nilvasaien Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Either Erebor or Springfield Posts: 31	viggosbeard posted: "On a more serious note, Arwen would have known that this task was not for her, as would Elrond, and there was never any chance of her joining the Fellowship." I agree; also PJ probably knew how far to go vis-a-vis expanding movie-Arwen's role so that those unfamiliar with the books could understand why Aragorn ends up with her, rather than with Eowyn. __________________ "Somebody was bound to say it one day...I just never thought it would be her."

08-17-2002, 02:22 AM	#24
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	Peter Jackson knew that fans of the book would riot if Arwen joined the fellowship. He obviously values his life. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

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08-16-2002, 07:14 AM	#21
Urksnik the Sleek Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: under the misty mountains Posts: 33	The fellowship was symbolically nine walkers to be set against the nine Nazgul. Elrond did in fact consider sending members of his household as part of the fellowship, although not specifically Glorfindel, but Merry and Pippin insisted that they must go along or they would follow anyway, against his better judgement, Elrond eventually agreed. I don't mind too much, Arwen's expanded role, but if PJ had sent her with the fellowship, I'd have certainly joned the lynch mob of LuthienTinuviel!