How would they react? - Page 2

FrodoFriend · 02-06-2002, 10:50 PM

Oh, Laurelyn, I'm sure you could make yourself understood if you really wanted to. There are other ways of communicating . . .

If all else failed, you could always draw pictures.

Me: I mean you no harm! *holds up stick figure picture of me and Fellowship clasping hands*
Boromir: What foul scrawlings are these?!
Gandalf: It is the language of Mordor!
Aragorn: She's an Orc in disguise and she means to take us captive!
Frodo: She wants to steal the Ring!
Pippin: She'll starve us until we look like that picture!

mirrille · 02-06-2002, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Laurelyn

Federation communicator pins????

I think what he means is that "universal translator" thingy. Yeah. If I could invent one of those, I'd be rolling in money.

I think if the fellowship were to land of my doorstep, the hobbits would be confused, Aragorn, Legolas, and especially Gimli and Boromir would assume I was some sort of dangerous enchantress and then God knows what they would do. So I can only hope that Gandalf is around, because as the wizard he would know a little something about space-time anomalies and be able to convince the rest not to kill me.
Then I could invite them in for tea.

In pantomime...I have no elvish.

Nazgûl Queen · 02-07-2002, 05:24 AM

I'd say "Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo" then rush inside to find my lists of elven words and phrases...

Then i'd invite them inside, give them food, contact my friends, and try to find someone who can speak quenya to ranslate for me....

Arathorn · 02-07-2002, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Federation communicator pins????

sorry, it's a star trek thing..

Another thought, though...

How would they react if they were to arrive at the Tolkien residence in the 60's when he was still alive?

Nazgûl Queen · 02-07-2002, 06:01 AM

If they turned up outside Tolkiens house he would immediately know them for who they were and start and in-depth discussion in Westron...
Then he'd take the Red Book of Westmarch and show it to them and wait for them to read it...

Laurelyn · 02-07-2002, 07:05 AM

I wonder what they'd say to Tolkien, and what they'd think of him for writing their story down.
I also wonder what they'd think of the movie! They'd probably wonder why so many things got changed.

Wayfarer · 02-07-2002, 02:11 PM

It's simple enough... Gandalf and Legolas would be able to understand my thoughts, ala felagund, and so we'd get past the language difficulties pretty easily.

Then I would sit them down and have them teach me Sindarin.

afro-elf · 02-07-2002, 08:48 PM

For those of you who would try to speak Quenya it would be a waste of time.

It was never rarely spoken in the third age by any save the Noldor and only during special occassions.

Sindarin was the lingua franca of the Elves. Dunedain used it as a language of lore . So the Elven that "everyone" knows is Sindarin.

If Sindarin was the langauge of Lore then Quenya would have been a SUPER language of lore.

Sort of like knowing Latin ( Sindarin)

And Quenya being ANCIENT Greek or Sanskrit.

Gandalf would know both Quenya and Sindarin

Aragorn would have know Sindarin VERY likely. But Quenya maybe only a smattering.

Boromir was a man of Action not study he may have had a smattering of Sindarin.

Legolas would know sindarin, but probably not quenya do to the politcal situation that rose in the past concering the two languages

Frodo knew sindarin and maybe a smatttering of Quenya

the others i doubt it.

Westron would be your best choice with sindarin a second

Are Westron and English connected?

Hawair and Nariel might recognize it Quenya but probably would not know what was said.

Arathorn · 02-07-2002, 10:02 PM

I guess to be safe we just talk in Rohirrim, then. Wasn't it (regrettably I think by JRR.T) similar to Old English?

markedel · 02-07-2002, 10:27 PM

Rohirric is not similar to old english. Rohirric to those fluent in Westron sounds like old english to those fluent in English.

Westron is therefore your best best-but sindarin is better known "here" so it's the best choice.

Nameless · 02-07-2002, 11:47 PM

Once the communication issue was overcome, I would be demanding that they take me with them back to Middle Earth!!

Laurelyn · 02-08-2002, 10:55 AM

Good idea, Nameless!!!

Kwijibo · 03-09-2002, 01:39 PM

Has ne1 considered sitting them down and teaching them English?

Just a thought ...

Tanoliel · 03-09-2002, 01:58 PM

Heh...heh...*drools...* Fellowship....at my doorstep....*slaps self* okay, okay, sorry 'bout that. I want to learn Westron....there's Quenya and I think Sindarin courses...anyone know where I can learn Westron? Not like I'd ever get a chance to use it, but...
Actually, if you just offered Merry and Pippin some food (esp. mushrooms!) they'd be on your side instantly...

Me: Uh...hi?
Fellowship: *blinks in confusion*
Me: Um, wait just a sec...*runs inside, grabs mushrooms and other food, runs back. Holds out food.* Wanna come in?
Merry: What's she saying?
Pippin: I'm not sure...but...
Both: she has FOOD! *they both rush indoors*
me: YES!

-tano

Feraway Hawkbriar · 03-09-2002, 03:34 PM

lol ^_^

Tanoliel · 03-10-2002, 11:20 PM

Whoo, yeah...I got two awesome hobbit lads all to myself...wheee! Just what a little hobbit lass dreams of...heh. Okay, well...um...*drool*
STOP IT! One must behave oneself...and besides, drooling on the keyboard could potentially shortcircuit the computer, leaving me without Entmoot for Eru knows how long, and THEN where would I be?
Heheh...home with Merry and Pippin!
*slap* noooo...

HEY! I'm an Elven Warrior! YAY!
-tano

Ararax · 03-11-2002, 12:39 AM

if you offer anyone shrooms they will be on your side unless their from the narcs

samwise of the shire · 03-11-2002, 01:05 AM

Lol. This is what I would do

Heres a knock on the door. Opens the door to see the Fellowship. Screams and falls in a dead faint on the floor.
But then I'd have a list handy of the things with which to lure the Fellowship into my house.

Gandalf:Wine, a pipe, soemthing to make him mad or annoyed so he'll have to step over the threshold to turn me into a spotted toad or whatever it is he does(try stealing his hat).
Legolas:Wine, A small avacado sapling, maybe some flat bread.
Gimli:Some of my little sisters golden hair, my Moms jewelry or the rocks off my mantle peice.
Aragorn:My homemade Gondorian standard
Boromir:A shiny trinket(my dads graduation ring)
Merry:Mushrooms,food of ANY sort,maybe the pipe that might not work with Gandalf.
Pippin:Food and drink.
Frodo:A book or food.
Sam:Frodo.
Samwise
ps. Cant say what I'd SAY to them as time is up.

Michelle The Fair · 03-12-2002, 12:34 AM

Very practical Samwise. I would simple bow gracefully, step to the side, hold the door open wide and motion for them to come inside with a smile on my face.

Me: (opens door)"Yes, can help yo...gandalf (said loud) Mithrandir!!!!!
Gandalf:"I know her not,but she seems to know me."
Me

bows gracefully, steps to the side, holds the door open wide and motions for them to come inside with a smile on my face.
Gandalf: She seems friendly. and as we are in a strange place we should take what friendship is offered."

Michelle The Fair · 03-12-2002, 12:36 AM

What would you do if the fellowship landed in the middle of your living room?

02-06-2002, 10:50 PM	#21
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Oh, Laurelyn, I'm sure you could make yourself understood if you really wanted to. There are other ways of communicating . . . If all else failed, you could always draw pictures. Me: I mean you no harm! holds up stick figure picture of me and Fellowship clasping hands Boromir: What foul scrawlings are these?! Gandalf: It is the language of Mordor! Aragorn: She's an Orc in disguise and she means to take us captive! Frodo: She wants to steal the Ring! Pippin: She'll starve us until we look like that picture! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-07-2002, 05:24 AM	#23
Nazgûl Queen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 400	I'd say "Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo" then rush inside to find my lists of elven words and phrases... Then i'd invite them inside, give them food, contact my friends, and try to find someone who can speak quenya to ranslate for me.... __________________ Morauko Umrien, Queen of the Nazgûl and Lady of Mordor Mistress of the Night The Nazgûl Queen she was, the Ringwraith, the enemy's most terrible servant; darkness went with her and she cried with the voices of death. Can be found loitering at Fantasy Essentials or her livejournal...

02-07-2002, 06:01 AM	#25
Nazgûl Queen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 400	If they turned up outside Tolkiens house he would immediately know them for who they were and start and in-depth discussion in Westron... Then he'd take the Red Book of Westmarch and show it to them and wait for them to read it... __________________ Morauko Umrien, Queen of the Nazgûl and Lady of Mordor Mistress of the Night The Nazgûl Queen she was, the Ringwraith, the enemy's most terrible servant; darkness went with her and she cried with the voices of death. Can be found loitering at Fantasy Essentials or her livejournal...

02-07-2002, 07:05 AM	#26
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	I wonder what they'd say to Tolkien, and what they'd think of him for writing their story down. I also wonder what they'd think of the movie! They'd probably wonder why so many things got changed. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-07-2002, 02:11 PM	#27
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	It's simple enough... Gandalf and Legolas would be able to understand my thoughts, ala felagund, and so we'd get past the language difficulties pretty easily. Then I would sit them down and have them teach me Sindarin. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-07-2002, 08:48 PM	#28
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	For those of you who would try to speak Quenya it would be a waste of time. It was never rarely spoken in the third age by any save the Noldor and only during special occassions. Sindarin was the lingua franca of the Elves. Dunedain used it as a language of lore . So the Elven that "everyone" knows is Sindarin. If Sindarin was the langauge of Lore then Quenya would have been a SUPER language of lore. Sort of like knowing Latin ( Sindarin) And Quenya being ANCIENT Greek or Sanskrit. Gandalf would know both Quenya and Sindarin Aragorn would have know Sindarin VERY likely. But Quenya maybe only a smattering. Boromir was a man of Action not study he may have had a smattering of Sindarin. Legolas would know sindarin, but probably not quenya do to the politcal situation that rose in the past concering the two languages Frodo knew sindarin and maybe a smatttering of Quenya the others i doubt it. Westron would be your best choice with sindarin a second Are Westron and English connected? Hawair and Nariel might recognize it Quenya but probably would not know what was said. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

02-07-2002, 10:02 PM	#29
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	I guess to be safe we just talk in Rohirrim, then. Wasn't it (regrettably I think by JRR.T) similar to Old English? __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

02-07-2002, 10:27 PM	#30
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Rohirric is not similar to old english. Rohirric to those fluent in Westron sounds like old english to those fluent in English. Westron is therefore your best best-but sindarin is better known "here" so it's the best choice. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-07-2002, 11:47 PM	#31
Nameless Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 68	Once the communication issue was overcome, I would be demanding that they take me with them back to Middle Earth!! __________________ Nameless and Faceless, but not Voiceless - - - Do you hear me?

02-08-2002, 10:55 AM	#32
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Good idea, Nameless!!! __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

03-09-2002, 01:39 PM	#33
Kwijibo Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlorien (actually Wales, but let's not talk about that) Posts: 117	Has ne1 considered sitting them down and teaching them English? Just a thought ... __________________ 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you can decide is what to do with the time that is given to you,' - Gandalf the Grey 'I left my body to science, but I'm afraid they've turned it down' - In memory of Graham Chapman 'Rubin sits like Buddah in a 10 foot cell, An innocent man in a living hell,' - From 'Hurricane' by Bob Dylan, the only innocent Hurricane protest song, written stressing the innocence of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter, a black, middle-weight boxer imprisoned for 19 for a triple murder which he did not commit.

03-09-2002, 01:58 PM	#34
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	Heh...heh...drools... Fellowship....at my doorstep....slaps self okay, okay, sorry 'bout that. I want to learn Westron....there's Quenya and I think Sindarin courses...anyone know where I can learn Westron? Not like I'd ever get a chance to use it, but... Actually, if you just offered Merry and Pippin some food (esp. mushrooms!) they'd be on your side instantly... Me: Uh...hi? Fellowship: blinks in confusion Me: Um, wait just a sec...runs inside, grabs mushrooms and other food, runs back. Holds out food. Wanna come in? Merry: What's she saying? Pippin: I'm not sure...but... Both: she has FOOD! they both rush indoors me: YES! -tano __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

03-09-2002, 03:34 PM	#35
Feraway Hawkbriar Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 348	lol ^_^ __________________ "The barks goes ever on and on out from the dog where they began. He's out there crapping on my lawn. Till I hit him with my van."

03-10-2002, 11:20 PM	#36
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	Whoo, yeah...I got two awesome hobbit lads all to myself...wheee! Just what a little hobbit lass dreams of...heh. Okay, well...um...drool STOP IT! One must behave oneself...and besides, drooling on the keyboard could potentially shortcircuit the computer, leaving me without Entmoot for Eru knows how long, and THEN where would I be? Heheh...home with Merry and Pippin! slap noooo... HEY! I'm an Elven Warrior! YAY! -tano __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

03-11-2002, 12:39 AM	#37
Ararax Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NEW JERSEY! Posts: 375	if you offer anyone shrooms they will be on your side unless their from the narcs __________________ Woah Deep

03-11-2002, 01:05 AM	#38
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Lol. This is what I would do Heres a knock on the door. Opens the door to see the Fellowship. Screams and falls in a dead faint on the floor. But then I'd have a list handy of the things with which to lure the Fellowship into my house. Gandalf:Wine, a pipe, soemthing to make him mad or annoyed so he'll have to step over the threshold to turn me into a spotted toad or whatever it is he does(try stealing his hat). Legolas:Wine, A small avacado sapling, maybe some flat bread. Gimli:Some of my little sisters golden hair, my Moms jewelry or the rocks off my mantle peice. Aragorn:My homemade Gondorian standard Boromir:A shiny trinket(my dads graduation ring) Merry:Mushrooms,food of ANY sort,maybe the pipe that might not work with Gandalf. Pippin:Food and drink. Frodo:A book or food. Sam:Frodo. Samwise ps. Cant say what I'd SAY to them as time is up. __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

03-12-2002, 12:34 AM	#39
Michelle The Fair Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chithaeglir (Misty Mountains) Posts: 86	The Fellowship Very practical Samwise. I would simple bow gracefully, step to the side, hold the door open wide and motion for them to come inside with a smile on my face. Me: (opens door)"Yes, can help yo...gandalf (said loud) Mithrandir!!!!! Gandalf:"I know her not,but she seems to know me." Mebows gracefully, steps to the side, holds the door open wide and motions for them to come inside with a smile on my face. Gandalf: She seems friendly. and as we are in a strange place we should take what friendship is offered." __________________ "And so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. Gandalf the Grey "PIPPIN LIVES in MY HEART!!!!!!!'

03-12-2002, 12:36 AM	#40
Michelle The Fair Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chithaeglir (Misty Mountains) Posts: 86	What would you do if the fellowship landed in the middle of your living room? __________________ "And so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. Gandalf the Grey "PIPPIN LIVES in MY HEART!!!!!!!'