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. . . continued from page 11 of Venting Thread II.
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Also, some of these killings are the result of politically motivated death squads. If these are included in the number of dead from sectarian violence, then Saddam's Baghdad political killings should also be included in the number he slew. That would make Saddam regime killings and modern sectarian killings more comparable. The point is that again, we just don't know how bad the figure is without anything to compare it to. Quote:
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Saddam Hussein's dictatorship was a secular regime, and doesn't really have anything to do with Islam now does it?
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I'm not arguing that it does. Actually, I was just talking with BB about BBC News. I just couldn't think of any better place to put this conversation, since the Venting Thread was clearly out. Besides, since the disputed article does relate to the war in Iraq, it does sort of relate to Muslims, in an indirect and debatable way.
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we are apparently on different planets.
you seem to have an agenda you wish to push at the expense of everyday rational opinion or debate. the BBC article (and you can take this professionally) is very carefully and neutrally written. anything beyond that is your own axe to grind. The article meets all journalistic and objecivity criteria within miles. I suspect you have got the wrong end of the stick on a linguistic matter. and please, no offence, mate - BUT do not get me mad trying to tell me of all people what the BBC means by insurection and Sectarianism. Do i try to tell you what a west coast fencing term means???? Quite objectively, i can only assume you confuse the British terms for something else if you find ANY angle in that carefully written piece of insipid pap as was that article. do the manly thing here Lief and just accept you took a convulted and historical and media savvy British terminological term the wrong way and from that read in X...Y... & ...Z!! best , BB |
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I can't find this story on any of the other major news sites I generally check either (NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, LA Times), which further indicates they may be making a big deal out of something that for Baghdad isn't a very big change for the worse.
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You're right. I like BBC News, which is why I keep getting my international news there every day . The liberalism does shine through too, though surely not so badly as on other sites. When that bias does come through though, it does annoy me, which is why I decided to just bring it up in the Venting Thread.
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News Flash:
Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi is dead! His death in a US air raid along with other militants and at least one civilian is the result of weeks of planning and information collecting. Hours after his death, the US launched seventeen Baghdad raids that they say brought them a "treasure trove" of information. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5059494.stm
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More good news from Iraq . . .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5117170.stm Oil output is improving steadily, and is at its highest now since the invasion.
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And so peace-loving Muslims start killing and burning once again...what happened? Someone pointed a finger at Muhammed...Il Pape quoted an old Emporer's opinion that Muhammed spread Islam by the sword, and that is was a barbaric religion. And then the muslims start burning and killing to show us just how non-violent and peace loving they really are...thus proving the quoted opinion by Benedict right...
These people, I am supposing, are not used to being criticised and not being able to chop something up... Why is it though, that they protest remarks by someone far away, and yet they do now protest the things that really hurt them everyday, like carbombings etc...? "Get in Line! We're peace-loving!"...Peace at an price, my friends, means squat. You can be dead and have peace, you can be in jail and have relative peace... Freedom is the real thing. EDIT: Mind you, that this does not convince me that all Muslims are like this.
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Nobody has disagreed or agreed with my opinion of the actual situation though...you guys plan on lumping me into a couple more racism tumblers? burning of "Benedict" [/*]The Irony of it all... ~ On a lighter note...They're All Full of It
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