Ford Scene, olsonm style...well, sorta - Page 3

olsonm · 03-20-2002, 08:47 PM

I get flamed by olsonm all the time (see 'Why are you weird' or 'sam..., kinda dim?' threads for proof). He is a troll and I hate him!

You, on the other hand, gave a very reasonable response to my half-a$$ed post. (It did burn just a little thou'

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jerseydevil · 03-24-2002, 02:00 AM

Lelondul - I don't think the wizard duel even had to be shown. Tolkien was much more subtle in what happened in LOTR. Gandalf spinning on his head was almost as stupid as the Flight to the Ford scene. Wizards duel is my second most hated scene in the movie for several reasons. It has Gandalf following Saruman like a whipped dog begging for his master's forgiveness - then it has Gandalf spinning on his head (which was completely laughable).

olsonm · 03-24-2002, 05:04 PM

Of course the 'duel' lasted barely a minute and Gandalf's 'breakdance' lasted only a few seconds. It intrigues me to see such a small moment evoke such a strong response. It goes, I think, to the heart of the various debates over the film.
The first interview of PJ's that I read had him saying something to the effect of, "This movie is my interpretation and isn't supposed to be the last word on LoTR adaptions." This makes rational sense, but the problem is that the movie probably IS the last word on LoTR adaptions for quite some time, perhaps decades.
That is why so many people are (for lack of a better word) nitpicky. They are concerned about how the movie will reflect on the book in the minds of the (non-reader) public.
There are, of course, differences of taste but these seem secondary to me. I personally enjoyed the movie and am looking forward to the next two, but this has more to do with the fact that I happen to like the kind of movie PJ made then thinking it was a spot-on adaption.
I am interested in what people think of the interpretation vs. adaption differentiation. Is it just splitting hairs or is it a legitmate distinction?

03-20-2002, 08:47 PM	#41
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Lelondul I get flamed by olsonm all the time (see 'Why are you weird' or 'sam..., kinda dim?' threads for proof). He is a troll and I hate him! You, on the other hand, gave a very reasonable response to my half-a$$ed post. (It did burn just a little thou' ) __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

03-24-2002, 02:00 AM	#42
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Lelondul - I don't think the wizard duel even had to be shown. Tolkien was much more subtle in what happened in LOTR. Gandalf spinning on his head was almost as stupid as the Flight to the Ford scene. Wizards duel is my second most hated scene in the movie for several reasons. It has Gandalf following Saruman like a whipped dog begging for his master's forgiveness - then it has Gandalf spinning on his head (which was completely laughable). __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-24-2002, 05:04 PM	#43
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Of course the 'duel' lasted barely a minute and Gandalf's 'breakdance' lasted only a few seconds. It intrigues me to see such a small moment evoke such a strong response. It goes, I think, to the heart of the various debates over the film. The first interview of PJ's that I read had him saying something to the effect of, "This movie is my interpretation and isn't supposed to be the last word on LoTR adaptions." This makes rational sense, but the problem is that the movie probably IS the last word on LoTR adaptions for quite some time, perhaps decades. That is why so many people are (for lack of a better word) nitpicky. They are concerned about how the movie will reflect on the book in the minds of the (non-reader) public. There are, of course, differences of taste but these seem secondary to me. I personally enjoyed the movie and am looking forward to the next two, but this has more to do with the fact that I happen to like the kind of movie PJ made then thinking it was a spot-on adaption. I am interested in what people think of the interpretation vs. adaption differentiation. Is it just splitting hairs or is it a legitmate distinction? __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!! Last edited by olsonm : 03-24-2002 at 05:05 PM.